Lucky, Lucky, Lucky!!!!!!

[Sir Tigger KC]

Went to get some diesel this afternoon as was on the red light.    As I started filling I was looking at the advert on the other nozzle on the pump and suddenly realised that I was looking at the black nozzle!!    Doh Doh Doh!!!!   Luckily I'd only put about a litre of petrol in so I brimmed it with diesel and have got away with it!!! 

What a complete and utter numpty though!!!    I was dead embarrassed, but the girl behind the counter laughed and said "Don't worry it happens all the time"  I was in South Wales so a bit too far away for LazyDocker to come to my aid!! 

[Lazydocker]

Went to get some diesel this afternoon as was on the red light.    As I started filling I was looking at the advert on the other nozzle on the pump and suddenly realised that I was looking at the black nozzle!!    Doh Doh Doh!!!!   Luckily I'd only put about a litre of petrol in so I brimmed it with diesel and have got away with it!!! 

What a complete and utter numpty though!!!    I was dead embarrassed, but the girl behind the counter laughed and said "Don't worry it happens all the time"  I was in South Wales so a bit too far away for LazyDocker to come to my aid!! 

Indeed... Easy to do and the reason I'm in business Depending where in S Wales I might have been able to get someone out to you though

FWIW, one of the other franchisees did the same in his van

[Sir Tigger KC]

That's funny LD!!!    I told a mate and he said " Aah I've done it twice now!!"     and he got someone out to drain his tank both times as he'd filled it!! 

[Lazydocker]

That's funny LD!!!    I told a mate and he said " Aah I've done it twice now!!"     and he got someone out to drain his tank both times as he'd filled it!! 

Best give your mate our number

[plym ian]

why can't they think of a simple system to stop people mis-fuelling,as in the pump shouting diesel going in or something like that

[henryd]

why can't they think of a simple system to stop people mis-fuelling,as in the pump shouting diesel going in or something like that

They do, http://www.misfuellingprevention.co.uk/about.asp 

[Vamps]

I thought there were differing size nozzles / filler caps to reduce this - you can put petrol in a diesel but not put diesel in a petrol.......

[Entwood]

That's what the link above yours is all about ... it's all about different size nozzles....  what they conveniemtly forget to say is .....  The big one won't fit in a small hole .. but a small one WILL fit in a big hole ..

and there is little that can be done ... except .. and this idea would work except that there are far too many existing cars ...

Square nozzle - Petrol low octane
Round nozzle - Petrol high octane
Diamond nozzle - Diesel

simple  but will never happen 

[Vamps]

That's what the link above yours is all about ... it's all about different size nozzles....  what they conveniemtly forget to say is .....  The big one won't fit in a small hole .. but a small one WILL fit in a big hole ..

and there is little that can be done ... except .. and this idea would work except that there are far too many existing cars ...

Square nozzle - Petrol low octane
Round nozzle - Petrol high octane
Diamond nozzle - Diesel

simple  but will never happen 

That is about an accessory you can buy and fit, I was talking about standardized differing sizes, lead free petrol being a slimmer nozzle than Leaded or diesel...........

[Lazydocker]

why can't they think of a simple system to stop people mis-fuelling,as in the pump shouting diesel going in or something like that

They do, http://www.misfuellingprevention.co.uk/about.asp 

But if you're determined enough you'll still do it Trust me, we've been out to several vehicles with this exact device fitted and drained them after misfulleing

Some Fords (and LR/Jag) have a device fitted in the filler neck that is supposed to prevent it but, again, we still go out to many of them

That's what the link above yours is all about ... it's all about different size nozzles....  what they conveniemtly forget to say is .....  The big one won't fit in a small hole .. but a small one WILL fit in a big hole ..

and there is little that can be done ... except .. and this idea would work except that there are far too many existing cars ...

Square nozzle - Petrol low octane
Round nozzle - Petrol high octane
Diamond nozzle - Diesel

simple  but will never happen 

The petrol industry have already done it once (Leaded and Unleaded petrol nozzles)... Why should they pick up the tab for it again?

Mind you, it's amazing how many petrol cars we go out to (with the smaller filler neck for unleaded nozzles) that have been filled completely with Diesel I suppose if you are determined enough you will manage

[Entwood]

why can't they think of a simple system to stop people mis-fuelling,as in the pump shouting diesel going in or something like that

They do, http://www.misfuellingprevention.co.uk/about.asp 

But if you're determined enough you'll still do it Trust me, we've been out to several vehicles with this exact device fitted and drained them after misfulleing

Some Fords (and LR/Jag) have a device fitted in the filler neck that is supposed to prevent it but, again, we still go out to many of them

That's what the link above yours is all about ... it's all about different size nozzles....  what they conveniemtly forget to say is .....  The big one won't fit in a small hole .. but a small one WILL fit in a big hole ..

and there is little that can be done ... except .. and this idea would work except that there are far too many existing cars ...

Square nozzle - Petrol low octane
Round nozzle - Petrol high octane
Diamond nozzle - Diesel

simple  but will never happen 

The petrol industry have already done it once (Leaded and Unleaded petrol nozzles)... Why should they pick up the tab for it again?

Mind you, it's amazing how many petrol cars we go out to (with the smaller filler neck for unleaded nozzles) that have been filled completely with Diesel I suppose if you are determined enough you will manage

But they did it badly, by staying with simply different diameter round nozzles ... as I said .. small one goes into big one with ease. If they had done it PROPERLY and changed the shape square/oval/triangular/diamond  whatever then the problem would be well on the way to being alleviated.... only "legacy" vehicles would need an adaptor ..

[Lazydocker]

why can't they think of a simple system to stop people mis-fuelling,as in the pump shouting diesel going in or something like that

They do, http://www.misfuellingprevention.co.uk/about.asp 

But if you're determined enough you'll still do it Trust me, we've been out to several vehicles with this exact device fitted and drained them after misfulleing

Some Fords (and LR/Jag) have a device fitted in the filler neck that is supposed to prevent it but, again, we still go out to many of them

That's what the link above yours is all about ... it's all about different size nozzles....  what they conveniemtly forget to say is .....  The big one won't fit in a small hole .. but a small one WILL fit in a big hole ..

and there is little that can be done ... except .. and this idea would work except that there are far too many existing cars ...

Square nozzle - Petrol low octane
Round nozzle - Petrol high octane
Diamond nozzle - Diesel

simple  but will never happen 

The petrol industry have already done it once (Leaded and Unleaded petrol nozzles)... Why should they pick up the tab for it again?

Mind you, it's amazing how many petrol cars we go out to (with the smaller filler neck for unleaded nozzles) that have been filled completely with Diesel I suppose if you are determined enough you will manage

But they did it badly, by staying with simply different diameter round nozzles ... as I said .. small one goes into big one with ease. If they had done it PROPERLY and changed the shape square/oval/triangular/diamond  whatever then the problem would be well on the way to being alleviated.... only "legacy" vehicles would need an adaptor ..

Not really... When they changed them Diesel was for busses and lorries... There were very few cars running on diesel

Equally, the situation would have been the same then as it is now... The entire countries petrol stations and every car on the road would have to change at the same time... It's just not practical

Anyway... I don't really want it changed

[Sir Tigger KC]

Anyway... I don't really want it changed

Ha Ha Yeah Turkeys don't vote for Christmas right?! 

[Lazydocker]

Anyway... I don't really want it changed

Ha Ha Yeah Turkeys don't vote for Christmas right?! 

Indeed

TBH, I know my business has a limited life span but I don't see any magical cure to people putting the wrong fuel in within the next 10-15 years so should (hopefully) see me through my working life I'll certainly be keeping my eye on the ball though

[Sir Tigger KC]

Entwood is along the right lines with the square, round and diamond nozzles and what they could do is all new cars have the correct socket for the fuel nozzle.  The new nozzles would be small enough to fit in older cars which would gradually disappear as the vast majority of cars in the UK are under 10 years old...

But then when you consider the costs involved to save the numpties it's just not worth it IMO! You can't legislate against stupidity! and we'll keep LD busy!!