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Nickbat

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Any chippies out there?
« on: 31 July 2007, 21:51:26 »

SWMBO's heading off for a couple of weeks to see the in-laws and I have my usual list of DIY tasks to accomplish while she's away. :(

This year's main theme is a corner unit she wants built in the hallway to house jackets and shoes. I've a design in my mind but have a problem. Basically I want to put up two triangular side frames so they meet flush with the walls and onto which I will attach the door(s) hinges. The problem is the triangular bit. How do I cut (or can I get cut) two 1.5 inch x 1.5 inch x 50 inch lengths of pine that are cut at 45 degrees lengthways? I've saws aplenty (circular, mitre, everyday), but can't think of how to hold the wood to get the even cut. I also have a Bosch electric plane, but the problem I find with that is getting a good flat result (I normally end up quite a bit uneven). Anyone any ideas?  
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Re: Any chippies out there?
« Reply #1 on: 31 July 2007, 21:57:36 »

Hi mate a diagram or sketch may help us out but can it not be cut with a 1/2 inch Router & a 2inch profile cutter following a template ?
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« Reply #2 on: 31 July 2007, 22:24:20 »

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SWMBO's heading off for a couple of weeks to see the in-laws and I have my usual list of DIY tasks to accomplish while she's away. :(

This year's main theme is a corner unit she wants built in the hallway to house jackets and shoes. I've a design in my mind but have a problem. Basically I want to put up two triangular side frames so they meet flush with the walls and onto which I will attach the door(s) hinges. The problem is the triangular bit. How do I cut (or can I get cut) two 1.5 inch x 1.5 inch x 50 inch lengths of pine that are cut at 45 degrees lengthways? I've saws aplenty (circular, mitre, everyday), but can't think of how to hold the wood to get the even cut. I also have a Bosch electric plane, but the problem I find with that is getting a good flat result (I normally end up quite a bit uneven). Anyone any ideas?  


There is a good chippie in Blackpool called Harry Ramsdons, fish aint bad (Sorry mate)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Any chippies out there?
« Reply #3 on: 31 July 2007, 22:33:20 »

Well if it was me I would be chucking the circular down it set to a 45deg cut....remember also that you can get wood already cut to 45 deg.....its used on flat roofs for some of the edges....


And Harry Ramsdens chip shops are bloody rubbish!
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Re: Any chippies out there?
« Reply #4 on: 31 July 2007, 22:40:10 »

What you need is a table saw with the blade tilted at 45o run your stock through and hey presto. Failing this, try a piece of 6" x 2" timber at your length, tilt your circular saw to an angle of 45o and cut a strip off the edge. The reason I suggest 6" x 2" is that you will need to have enough for the saw to sit on to get a straight cut unless you can clamp a smaller piece to your bench in some way.

When you have cut one strip, turn over the stock and cut the other side at 90o and you should have your two strips with an identical angle on each.

Best lesson I was ever taught in carpentry was, 'Keep it as long as you can for as long as you can'.
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« Reply #5 on: 31 July 2007, 22:40:47 »

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Well if it was me I would be chucking the circular down it set to a 45deg cut....remember also that you can get wood already cut to 45 deg.....its used on flat roofs for some of the edges....


And Harry Ramsdens chip shops are bloody rubbish!

Your right there, I come from where the chippies are second to none. Yorkshire, real chips, real bread.

 :y :y :y :y
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« Reply #6 on: 31 July 2007, 22:43:16 »

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Well if it was me I would be chucking the circular down it set to a 45deg cut....remember also that you can get wood already cut to 45 deg.....its used on flat roofs for some of the edges....


And Harry Ramsdens chip shops are bloody rubbish!

Your right there, I come from where the chippies are second to none. Yorkshire, real chips, real bread.

 :y :y :y :y

I will second that..Bloody rubbish chips.. :y
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« Reply #7 on: 31 July 2007, 22:47:20 »

Thanks guys, I think I'll need to dust off the circular saw. My problem was securing a relatively long and thin piece of wood for the saw to bit but not vibrate. I like the idea of an oversized block, though still not easy to secure on a B&D Workmate, even with clamps.

In response to the request for a sketch I just knocked this up:



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« Reply #8 on: 31 July 2007, 22:50:14 »

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Thanks guys, I think I'll need to dust off the circular saw. My problem was securing a relatively long and thin piece of wood for the saw to bit but not vibrate. I like the idea of an oversized block, though still not easy to secure on a B&D Workmate, even with clamps.

Screw it to the bench (Workmate). It will be rock solid then.  :)
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Re: Any chippies out there?
« Reply #9 on: 01 August 2007, 00:04:03 »

You can buy arris (sp?) rail for fencing, which is the 45 degree section you want.  May be a bit big but you would likely want to plane it down anyway.  would save you the hassle of the 45 degree cut though..
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« Reply #10 on: 01 August 2007, 14:49:08 »

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Thanks guys, I think I'll need to dust off the circular saw. My problem was securing a relatively long and thin piece of wood for the saw to bit but not vibrate. I like the idea of an oversized block, though still not easy to secure on a B&D Workmate, even with clamps.

Screw it to the bench (Workmate). It will be rock solid then.  :)

What you need to do is clamp the circular saw upside down in the work mate, this than turns it into a table saw.

Clamp a fence to the workmate to give you sometinng to work against, set the blade at 45 degs, then you can rip down any size of timber you fnacey.

Whatever you do make sure the fence doesnot run past the centre of the blade otherwise there is a risk of binding on the back cut and throwing the wood straight back at you, which without doubt will hit you square in the knackers!!

Also make sure the circular saw has the writhing knife fitted.

If your feeling flush you can buy one of these :- Saw bench

Or one oth these if you own a router :- Router Table
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« Reply #11 on: 01 August 2007, 16:15:00 »

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Thanks guys, I think I'll need to dust off the circular saw. My problem was securing a relatively long and thin piece of wood for the saw to bit but not vibrate. I like the idea of an oversized block, though still not easy to secure on a B&D Workmate, even with clamps.

Screw it to the bench (Workmate). It will be rock solid then.  :)

What you need to do is clamp the circular saw upside down in the work mate, this than turns it into a table saw.

Clamp a fence to the workmate to give you sometinng to work against, set the blade at 45 degs, then you can rip down any size of timber you fnacey.

Whatever you do make sure the fence doesnot run past the centre of the blade otherwise there is a risk of binding on the back cut and throwing the wood straight back at you, which without doubt will hit you square in the knackers!!

Also make sure the circular saw has the writhing knife fitted.

If your feeling flush you can buy one of these :- Saw bench

Or one oth these if you own a router :- Router Table

I thought that as well, the only problem as I see it is how you get the saw flush with and square to the workmate? Oh yes, safe as well. :'( :'(
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« Reply #12 on: 01 August 2007, 16:44:05 »

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Thanks guys, I think I'll need to dust off the circular saw. My problem was securing a relatively long and thin piece of wood for the saw to bit but not vibrate. I like the idea of an oversized block, though still not easy to secure on a B&D Workmate, even with clamps.

Screw it to the bench (Workmate). It will be rock solid then.  :)

What you need to do is clamp the circular saw upside down in the work mate, this than turns it into a table saw.

Clamp a fence to the workmate to give you sometinng to work against, set the blade at 45 degs, then you can rip down any size of timber you fnacey.

Whatever you do make sure the fence doesnot run past the centre of the blade otherwise there is a risk of binding on the back cut and throwing the wood straight back at you, which without doubt will hit you square in the knackers!!

Also make sure the circular saw has the writhing knife fitted.

If your feeling flush you can buy one of these :- Saw bench

Or one oth these if you own a router :- Router Table

I can see what you're getting at, but what sort of fence did you have in mind...and what is a writhing knife? :-?

Remember you're dealing with a thicko here! ;D ;D ;)
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Re: Any chippies out there?
« Reply #13 on: 01 August 2007, 16:53:28 »

The fence just needs to be a piece of stock clamped to the bench parallel to the blade in it's upright position and at 90o to the bench .

The 'writhing' knife also called a riving knife is the curved 'finger' that protrudes behind the blade when the guard lifts when you run the saw through the timber. Here is a really good health and safety fact sheet that should put you straight.

Oh, and I also found this which will tell you loads more about circular saws.

Take it carefully.
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« Reply #14 on: 01 August 2007, 17:05:49 »

Thanks mate. Got to be honest and say I'm not that confident in turning the circular saw upside down and using it as a table saw. I mean it's a great idea, don't get me wrong, it's just that the thought of doing that (and I'm on my own here at the moment so no helping steadying hands available) makes me feel a bit uneasy.  :-/
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