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Nickbat

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Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« on: 05 January 2013, 10:50:09 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20914685

Call me old-fashioned, but I don't believe any government has the right to legislate on food ingredients.* It is up to the individual how they should deal with their weight - if they feel they have a problem, that is. As for kids, different metabolic rates, genetic factors and hormonal issues, all have a bearing.

I must say, that i do not see an epidemic of blobbies around these days. Indeed, I recall there were fat kids around when I was a lad - mind you, there were others that would make stick insects weep with jealousy.

At the end of the day, politicians need to concentrate on making the economy better and reducing our deficit, instead of faffing around trying to legislate every aspect of our personal lives.

Perhaps it's because they are clueless about complex matters like the economy that they feel the need to poke around in social issues in a feeble attempt to justify their existence. ::) ::)


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*Unless proven toxic/harmful, of course. Wouldn't want arsenic in my custard powder.  ;)
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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #1 on: 05 January 2013, 11:09:41 »

I am in no doubt that a great many foods contain way too much fat, sugar, salt etc. Why ? Because they are cheap, profitable, and generally make things taste better. People buy them.

But this and the obesity problem is not new, its been around for some years now. So why didn't Labour do something when they were in power ? And exactly how does a government tell for example Krispy Kreme to make their doughnuts low calorie ?
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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #2 on: 05 January 2013, 12:52:52 »

It just shows how desperate Labour are to start producing some realistic policies for 2015. 

So far they have been solely lacking in these, just at a time when woolly Cameron is struggling with all kinds of wacky going on's! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

I do not want Labour back!  What we require is a strong, determined, leader full of real character.

Anyone seen an example so far?? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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albitz

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cleggy

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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #4 on: 05 January 2013, 14:13:09 »

VOTE UKIP  :y :y :y :y :y :y
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Lizzie_Zoom

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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #5 on: 05 January 2013, 14:47:14 »

Yes. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_kltLwKtQU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs

But Albitz and Cleggy he is not an all rounder. :P  If he could prove he is and had sound new policies, then maybe I would be convinced.  But not quite yet ;)
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Rog

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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #6 on: 05 January 2013, 14:58:01 »



But Albitz and Cleggy he is not an all rounder. :P  If he could prove he is and had sound new policies, then maybe I would be convinced.  But not quite yet ;)

I agree with Lizzie. Although I agree with many, but not all, of his views on Europe, it takes very much more to run a country.

To be honest if there was a General Election tomorrow, I really don't know who I would want to win. It would be a case of choosing the best of a very bad bunch. It would certainly not be Labour despite Millibands attempts to "re-brand", I'm afraid the legacy of Blair_Brown will live on for a very long time yet  >:(
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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #7 on: 05 January 2013, 15:23:53 »

That is the problem. Labour borrows money they haven't got to give to the not so well off. Conservatives take money off the poor to give to the well off(under the guise of job/wealth creation)  and sell or give away the family silver( and I remember McRuin doing that with the gold too).,

At the end of the day , they are all just clueless egotist custodians of a runaway bankrupt ship.

How much worse could it be to give another party (UKIP) a go? After all nowadays there is very little difference really between New Labour and the former Conservatives. Just what will Britain look like with another million penniless Bulgarians and Rumanians milking the UK welfare system in 12 monthstime.

If somebody wants some ideas here are a few.

1. Take Britain to the European court of human rights for not paying adequate state pensions (the lowest in Europe). The outcome would probably be all the other member states reducing theirs to the UK level thus improving EU efficiency but you never know.

2. An immigrant quota based on current populatrion density. So densely populated countries like England and the Netherlands could take say 100,000 net per year whilst France, Germany could take a million net per year. 
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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #8 on: 05 January 2013, 16:22:56 »

Yes. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_kltLwKtQU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs

But Albitz and Cleggy he is not an all rounder. :P  If he could prove he is and had sound new policies, then maybe I would be convinced.  But not quite yet ;)

As if we have an alternative ??? UKIP does have other policies and is not a one policy party. At least N.F has worked for a living and is in the real world. :) :)

The European Elections next year will be interesting, VOTE UKIP :y :y and put a bomb under Camoron's arse :y :y
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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #9 on: 05 January 2013, 16:42:48 »

It just shows how desperate Labour are to start producing some realistic policies for 2015. 

So far they have been solely lacking in these, just at a time when woolly Cameron is struggling with all kinds of wacky going on's! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

I do not want Labour back!  What we require is a strong, determined, leader full of real character.

Anyone seen an example so far?? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

When CaMoron loses in 2015, Boris will take over as leader of the Labour Lite party. He plays up to his buffoon image, like Reagan did as the opposition then underestimate what is actually happening and in Reagan's words, this makes it much easier to get done what you want to do. Boris has got a reputation for getting things done.

Nigel Farage is potentially a good leader, who has a very good grasp of economics from where he worked in the City, unlike CaMoron or Osborne. Osborne's only job experience is booking the deceased on to a NHS database and refolding towels in Selfridges, so no surprise that as Chancellor he is useless. Over the next two years Farage needs to start pushing UKIPs other very sound policies and Farage need to come across as more statesman like. The Libs/Lab/Cons all spend large sums using PR consultants to groom their main politicians image hence the Brown Grin. UKIP need to do the same to create a more statesman like Farage where to many people he comes across as a bit too smug.
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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #10 on: 05 January 2013, 17:07:54 »



When CaMoron loses in 2015, Boris will take over as leader of the Labour Lite party. He plays up to his buffoon image, like Reagan did as the opposition then underestimate what is actually happening and in Reagan's words, this makes it much easier to get done what you want to do. Boris has got a reputation for getting things done.

Nigel Farage is potentially a good leader, who has a very good grasp of economics from where he worked in the City, unlike CaMoron or Osborne. Osborne's only job experience is booking the deceased on to a NHS database and refolding towels in Selfridges, so no surprise that as Chancellor he is useless. Over the next two years Farage needs to start pushing UKIPs other very sound policies and Farage need to come across as more statesman like. The Libs/Lab/Cons all spend large sums using PR consultants to groom their main politicians image hence the Brown Grin. UKIP need to do the same to create a more statesman like Farage where to many people he comes across as a bit too smug.

Yep, I go along with all of that

Ah yes the "Brown Grin"  . . . it always reminded me of The Joker out of Batman
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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #11 on: 05 January 2013, 17:12:40 »



When CaMoron loses in 2015, Boris will take over as leader of the Labour Lite party. He plays up to his buffoon image, like Reagan did as the opposition then underestimate what is actually happening and in Reagan's words, this makes it much easier to get done what you want to do. Boris has got a reputation for getting things done.

Nigel Farage is potentially a good leader, who has a very good grasp of economics from where he worked in the City, unlike CaMoron or Osborne. Osborne's only job experience is booking the deceased on to a NHS database and refolding towels in Selfridges, so no surprise that as Chancellor he is useless. Over the next two years Farage needs to start pushing UKIPs other very sound policies and Farage need to come across as more statesman like. The Libs/Lab/Cons all spend large sums using PR consultants to groom their main politicians image hence the Brown Grin. UKIP need to do the same to create a more statesman like Farage where to many people he comes across as a bit too smug.

Yep, I go along with all of that

Ah yes the "Brown Grin"  . . . it always reminded me of The Joker out of Batman

+1 :y :y
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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
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Lizzie_Zoom

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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #13 on: 05 January 2013, 18:40:03 »

Here ya go. :y

http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies

Very interesting, and still reading. ;)

So far there seems to be a lack of describing how anything is going to be funded, along with the establishment of more "local" administration, but at what cost.

It is easy to write what you would like to do, but what are the true practicalities?

So still undecided - so far! ;D ;D ;)
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Re: Now Labour jump on the nanny state bandwagon
« Reply #14 on: 05 January 2013, 19:35:45 »

Here ya go. :y

http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies

Very interesting, and still reading. ;)

So far there seems to be a lack of describing how anything is going to be funded, along with the establishment of more "local" administration, but at what cost.

It is easy to write what you would like to do, but what are the true practicalities?

So still undecided - so far! ;D ;D ;)

Try not spending £50 million a day on the EU, and £15 billion on foreign aid for starters :y :y
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