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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #30 on: 13 January 2013, 20:39:14 »

Have you checked timing for misfire? ECU will throw an 0340 if it`s out. BTW RPM cut off point for dodgy cam sensor is 4500
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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #31 on: 13 January 2013, 20:40:05 »

I dunno i got some little Card thing from MIGWEB
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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #32 on: 13 January 2013, 20:41:06 »

the timings been checked and apparently all is well but like i keep saying obviously ruddy not otherwise id be able to drive it lol
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« Reply #33 on: 13 January 2013, 20:45:21 »

the timings been checked and apparently all is well but like i keep saying obviously ruddy not otherwise id be able to drive it lol
But is it? :)
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« Reply #34 on: 13 January 2013, 20:45:58 »

I dunno i got some little Card thing from MIGWEB
Similar to TC :)
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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #35 on: 13 January 2013, 20:48:04 »

I dunno i got some little Card thing from MIGWEB
Similar to TC :)

What is this MIGWEB that you speak of?  :D
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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #36 on: 13 January 2013, 20:50:44 »

Do not change anything until you've had the codes read, it will only complicate matters.

2.2 petrol needs a code reader. No other way to read DTCs on that.
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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #37 on: 13 January 2013, 21:28:46 »

Okay guys thanks for the input ill be borrowing the Codereader next weekend hopefully :)
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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #38 on: 19 January 2013, 18:05:46 »

Having all kinds of trouble code reading the 2.2 Auto

Quick question though would a Duff Lambda Sensor cause te auto box to go into limp mode?
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« Reply #39 on: 19 January 2013, 20:12:24 »

Having all kinds of trouble code reading the 2.2 Auto

Quick question though would a Duff Lambda Sensor cause te auto box to go into limp mode?
Mate bring your reader maybe one out of three should read car fault=cross timing off list and cam sensor(GEN VX) and reckon its ECU myself due to 2 people tried to access fault-EML is on sometimes when you start sometimes not? Eml can go out =spanner light comes on?? Gave up myself cos needs Tech 2 and well rest is history mate Just let me know what problem was Eventually when sorted=reckon get code solve problem pretty quick if not worth it in parts mate TBH.
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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #40 on: 19 January 2013, 23:56:30 »

Having all kinds of trouble code reading the 2.2 Auto

Quick question though would a Duff Lambda Sensor cause te auto box to go into limp mode?
Mate bring your reader maybe one out of three should read car fault=cross timing off list and cam sensor(GEN VX) and reckon its ECU myself due to 2 people tried to access fault-EML is on sometimes when you start sometimes not? Eml can go out =spanner light comes on?? Gave up myself cos needs Tech 2 and well rest is history mate Just let me know what problem was Eventually when sorted=reckon get code solve problem pretty quick if not worth it in parts mate TBH.

Do you think general ECU or Gearbox ECU
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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #41 on: 20 January 2013, 00:12:00 »

Dont know havent got tech 2 and its a DBW which means drive by wire BUT should be Dont Bloody Work!!!! Useless turd of an idea that electrickery to replace simple cable-Faggots
So havent a clue which ecu or if something simple causing it-all migs from after 2000 are b***** you cant do paperclip test and need computer to just find fault-if you lucky   Now wait for rants mate - trouble is what i say is true and no one wants to admit it
Thats what I said to previous owner he had mate who owns garage told him to Tech2 the ******r  Funny thing is I took for drive and all good-went to old mans-next day F U B A R go figure? on that then-fitted vx cam sensor as everyone and thier cousin said=cam sensor=B*****x same
best bet is take to garage and Tech2 at least it will get it then-Had people contact me privately over their own cars and soon as say DBW or 2.6 tell them garage +Tech2
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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #42 on: 20 January 2013, 00:41:32 »

Its a 2001 Early Facelift 2.2 Petrol Auto Estate in Silver its suffering from a Mis-fire, Topend been rebuilt new waterpump, Cambelt and Auto box keeps going into Limp Mode?
Im bloody awful with Petrol lumps but the 'dangle berries' with Diesels lol Help needed me thinks
I'd go back to basics and start by checking for a spark at the end of each lead/coilpack, then re-check timing (it may have slipped since 'symes' last saw the vehicle).
It may also be worth checking all the fuses, which pins did you short out at the diagnostics plug?
Does the e.m.l. come on with the other lights at initial start up?
This is the pricing I'm getting for a 2.2. But for some reason not a camshaft sensor for the DTI on the site....



How weird but thankfully touch would no sensor faults on the DTi as of yet lol
There is no cam sensor on a 2.2 Vx. diesel.
Also any code reader that can talk to a Vx. diesel should be able to communicate with a 2.2 petrol easily.
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« Reply #43 on: 20 January 2013, 01:02:48 »

Its a 2001 Early Facelift 2.2 Petrol Auto Estate in Silver its suffering from a Mis-fire, Topend been rebuilt new waterpump, Cambelt and Auto box keeps going into Limp Mode?
Im bloody awful with Petrol lumps but the 'dangle berries' with Diesels lol Help needed me thinks
I'd go back to basics and start by checking for a spark at the end of each lead/coilpack, then re-check timing (it may have slipped since 'symes' last saw the vehicle).
It may also be worth checking all the fuses, which pins did you short out at the diagnostics plug?
Does the e.m.l. come on with the other lights at initial start up?
This is the pricing I'm getting for a 2.2. But for some reason not a camshaft sensor for the DTI on the site....



How weird but thankfully touch would no sensor faults on the DTi as of yet lol
There is no cam sensor on a 2.2 Vx. diesel.
Also any code reader that can talk to a Vx. diesel should be able to communicate with a 2.2 petrol easily.
Car still here mate -since before Xmas  and Q1=yes Q2=no Q3=yes
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Re: 4-Pot Petrol Specialist - Advice Needed
« Reply #44 on: 20 January 2013, 09:58:40 »

Any glitches in the engine ecu, gearbox ecu and abs ecu can causes engine and gearbox to limp.  All 3 ecus have a close relationship, so when one has a monk on, it can affect the others.

It really does need to go on a code reader capable of readign these 3 ECUs.  Anything else is just guesswork, and that then, aside from being expensive, further complicates matters.


As to DBW, nothing inherently wrong with them. Most are robust, and the ones fitted to Omegas are very robust.  In the 9yrs or so I've been active on various Omega sites, I think I've heard of 2 failures. It is worth cleaning them every time you do the breathers (ie, annually, or every couple of years if its always used for longer journeys only), but this is no different to the cable operated ones.
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