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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #30 on: 23 January 2013, 20:50:23 »

Buy it, I bought a 50,000 miler 1 owner 2.6 CDX 2 years ago (manual) great car, power delivery is superb, on a 55 mile daily commute I always get 30 mpg, we also have a 2.2 auto the V6 is much better to drive/ride in.
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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #31 on: 23 January 2013, 21:24:04 »

Tb is correct, having had a 2.2 manual, 2.6 manual, auto, 3.2 auto and manual I can hopefully offer some advice.
Forgetting auto v manual preference, I think the 2.6 manual is almost as good as the 3.2 auto. The 2.6 auto does not compare overly well to the 3.2 auto, the extra 30 or so bhp is noticeable.
The 3.2 manual again is better than the 2.6, giving better mpg and better pull in all gears.
And whilst 52k miles is good, I think for little more than the £950 you can get a sub 75k miles 3.2 Elite.
Again, personally I would only entertain a post '52' registered Elite. I think it has a better quality leather, it's the textured effect and looks better - not as shiny. They also have indirect night lighting, nicer style of alloys, auto wipers (all auto wipers are useless) but they are no worse than all the others out there.
Why doesn't mine? Don't tell me, I bought a ringer from a dodgy geezer ;D
Cant say i've heard of " indirect night lighting " what is this feature when its at home  ??? ;D
A bulb in the mirror.

My Signum has the night lighting,I'm sure the mirror looks much the same as my old Elites with auto dip so should retrofit
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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #32 on: 23 January 2013, 21:27:00 »

Tb is correct, having had a 2.2 manual, 2.6 manual, auto, 3.2 auto and manual I can hopefully offer some advice.
Forgetting auto v manual preference, I think the 2.6 manual is almost as good as the 3.2 auto. The 2.6 auto does not compare overly well to the 3.2 auto, the extra 30 or so bhp is noticeable.
The 3.2 manual again is better than the 2.6, giving better mpg and better pull in all gears.
And whilst 52k miles is good, I think for little more than the £950 you can get a sub 75k miles 3.2 Elite.
Again, personally I would only entertain a post '52' registered Elite. I think it has a better quality leather, it's the textured effect and looks better - not as shiny. They also have indirect night lighting, nicer style of alloys, auto wipers (all auto wipers are useless) but they are no worse than all the others out there.
Why doesn't mine? Don't tell me, I bought a ringer from a dodgy geezer ;D
Cant say i've heard of " indirect night lighting " what is this feature when its at home  ??? ;D
A bulb in the mirror.

My Signum has the night lighting,I'm sure the mirror looks much the same as my old Elites with auto dip so should retrofit
Handy feature if not a bit lazy but if you have an Automatic might as well have the full hog  ::)
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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #33 on: 23 January 2013, 21:27:54 »

If your worried about the MPG don't buy an Omega. Or put it on Gas. On the work run (16 miles each way mixed driving) I average 25 MPG. On a gentle long run 30 odd is possible.
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« Reply #34 on: 23 January 2013, 21:32:48 »

If your worried about the MPG don't buy an Omega. Or put it on Gas. On the work run (16 miles each way mixed driving) I average 25 MPG. On a gentle long run 30 odd is possible.
I'm not worried about MPG just wanted to compare.
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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #35 on: 23 January 2013, 21:56:57 »

Come now Mr Tb  ;D
Indirect night lighting you'll find is fitted to the majority of 'premium' vehicles now. In the rear view mirror or courtesy light panel there is a dim light. In the Omega's case an orange light from the rear view mirror. It is aimed at the central console area giving a small amount of light to aid with using the controls. Going from a vehicle with/without it, you would notice it

And miss it - same with the dimmed courtesy lights in the rear ;)
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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #36 on: 23 January 2013, 22:30:53 »

If you are going from 2.2 to 2.6 V6 you will notice the difference and it will put a smile on your face, ours did, and it's better on fuel as well........ :y :y :y

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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #37 on: 23 January 2013, 23:04:56 »

Tb is correct, having had a 2.2 manual, 2.6 manual, auto, 3.2 auto and manual I can hopefully offer some advice.
Forgetting auto v manual preference, I think the 2.6 manual is almost as good as the 3.2 auto. The 2.6 auto does not compare overly well to the 3.2 auto, the extra 30 or so bhp is noticeable.
The 3.2 manual again is better than the 2.6, giving better mpg and better pull in all gears.
And whilst 52k miles is good, I think for little more than the £950 you can get a sub 75k miles 3.2 Elite.
Again, personally I would only entertain a post '52' registered Elite. I think it has a better quality leather, it's the textured effect and looks better - not as shiny. They also have indirect night lighting, nicer style of alloys, auto wipers (all auto wipers are useless) but they are no worse than all the others out there.

I've still been on a hunt for multiram issues on a 2.6 several times because it's felt so flat compared to my 3.2 auto, manual 2.6s included. The extra performance of the 3.2 is worth hanging on for, if important, IMHO. Especially as the fuel economy penalty doesn't appear to be that great (although I have no direct experience of that, never having owned a 2.6).
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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #38 on: 23 January 2013, 23:18:03 »

Tb is correct, having had a 2.2 manual, 2.6 manual, auto, 3.2 auto and manual I can hopefully offer some advice.
Forgetting auto v manual preference, I think the 2.6 manual is almost as good as the 3.2 auto. The 2.6 auto does not compare overly well to the 3.2 auto, the extra 30 or so bhp is noticeable.
The 3.2 manual again is better than the 2.6, giving better mpg and better pull in all gears.
And whilst 52k miles is good, I think for little more than the £950 you can get a sub 75k miles 3.2 Elite.
Again, personally I would only entertain a post '52' registered Elite. I think it has a better quality leather, it's the textured effect and looks better - not as shiny. They also have indirect night lighting, nicer style of alloys, auto wipers (all auto wipers are useless) but they are no worse than all the others out there.

I've still been on a hunt for multiram issues on a 2.6 several times because it's felt so flat compared to my 3.2 auto, manual 2.6s included. The extra performance of the 3.2 is worth hanging on for, if important, IMHO. Especially as the fuel economy penalty doesn't appear to be that great (although I have no direct experience of that, never having owned a 2.6).

That is interesting Kevin. I think I was a little unfair in comparing the manual against the auto. If comparing a 2.6 auto against a 3.2 auto, I would 100% agree the 2.6 does feel different. Perhaps not sheer speed wise as such, more the way the 3.2 builds its speed, with less effort and fuss than a 2.6 does.
I think the manual gearbox does overcome this for the 2.6, but that is changing the goal posts a bit.
Have you driven a 3.2 manual on a good run? If so, did you notice much difference from your auto?

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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #39 on: 23 January 2013, 23:36:52 »

I've driven a 3.2 manual but not that extensively. I'd say the difference between auto and manual is much less than 2.6 vs. 3.2, i.e. a manual 2.6 is still way off the pace of a 3.2 auto.

TBH, I feel that whilst a 4 speed auto will by necessity have a pretty tall 1st gear and be a little slower launching, the manual Omegas have the opposite problem where 1st gear is very short for a reasonably powerful car and the manual box and clutch aren't really suited to the quick changes this necessitates if you're going to launch it quickly. Once underway, not sure there's much in it performance wise, except the manual is more often in the correct gear for the road ahead!

I do sometimes wish my 3.2 was manual due to the shortcomings of the auto gearbox, but at the same time, I wouldn't want to live with the standard manual setup either. If only I could just drop a T5 gearbox in... ::)  Might even be as simple as removing all the sloppy rubber from the standard shift mechanism, I suppose.
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« Reply #40 on: 24 January 2013, 16:18:19 »

On further inspection there is some rust on the rear passenger arch, a dent below the rear light on the curved part, a ding dent on the passenger side wing closer to the headlight, two crinkle type dents on the front bumper near the middle/drivers side, but on the pluss side the engine is as sweet as a nut and pulls like a train smooth auto box working as it should, all the toys work and odderless interior and clean. Hmm not much else I can think of. Overall it's good but not great and he is being awkward on price saying if it doesn't sell he'll most likely PX it for a new car etc. the car is worth considering at least. Oh and he has never used the heated seats apparently which I found odd but I guess it's possible didn't even know it had them ???. And has owned it from 8 months old and a local Vauxhall dealer being the previous the first keeper. ;)
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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #41 on: 24 January 2013, 16:32:21 »

On further inspection there is some rust on the rear passenger arch, a dent below the rear light on the curved part, a ding dent on the passenger side wing closer to the headlight, two crinkle type dents on the front bumper near the middle/drivers side, but on the pluss side the engine is as sweet as a nut and pulls like a train smooth auto box working as it should, all the toys work and odderless interior and clean. Hmm not much else I can think of. Overall it's good but not great and he is being awkward on price saying if it doesn't sell he'll most likely PX it for a new car etc. the car is worth considering at least. Oh and he has never used the heated seats apparently which I found odd but I guess it's possible didn't even know it had them ???. And has owned it from 8 months old and a local Vauxhall dealer being the previous the first keeper. ;)

He'll be offered pennies for it ::)
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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #42 on: 24 January 2013, 16:52:24 »

On further inspection there is some rust on the rear passenger arch, a dent below the rear light on the curved part, a ding dent on the passenger side wing closer to the headlight, two crinkle type dents on the front bumper near the middle/drivers side, but on the pluss side the engine is as sweet as a nut and pulls like a train smooth auto box working as it should, all the toys work and odderless interior and clean. Hmm not much else I can think of. Overall it's good but not great and he is being awkward on price saying if it doesn't sell he'll most likely PX it for a new car etc. the car is worth considering at least. Oh and he has never used the heated seats apparently which I found odd but I guess it's possible didn't even know it had them ??? . And has owned it from 8 months old and a local Vauxhall dealer being the previous the first keeper. ;)

He'll be offered pennies for it ::)
Hopefully, I'll let him sweat a few days see if he'll drop, Ideally £700 i'd probably give it a go at that price.
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Re: I have a Omega dilemma
« Reply #43 on: 24 January 2013, 18:40:10 »

I do sometimes wish my 3.2 was manual due to the shortcomings of the auto gearbox
The earlier ECUs - GS820 with v9 firmware - overcomes many of the "overcomable" issues with autos (given the hydromechanical limitations). Obviously, it can't predict what gear you want to be in though.

Shame the GS821x is such a step backwards  :'(
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« Reply #44 on: 27 January 2013, 17:33:25 »

From what I've said and information put up about it what would you say would make a reasonable offer ? I'm getting fedup of waiting to find an Omega 3.0-3.2 with a good engine and body to match. Just seen a 3.2 elite today seller said its mint but its falling apart from what I saw.
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