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PLEASE HELP
« on: 29 January 2013, 21:22:22 »

Help i dont know what has happend just got back from work well came out of work jumped in the car drove about 3 miles down the road went to change gear pushed the clutch down and it didnt come back up i lifted it with my foot and it went back into position carryed on down the road and then it did it again but this time it came half way back up on its own can anyone tell me whats going on .      Sorry the car its a 2.2 dti  2002 omega if that makes any differant     
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #1 on: 29 January 2013, 21:39:03 »

Sounds like it needs a new clutch :-[
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #2 on: 29 January 2013, 21:42:01 »

Sounds like it needs a new clutch :-[


Sounds more like the pedal assembly ....... if the clutch itself that'd failed, there'd have been slip. But it's a loooooong time since I'v worked on something with an extra pedal  ::) ::)
Isn't there a self adjuster in there somewhere .....  :-\ :-\
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #3 on: 29 January 2013, 21:45:32 »

Sounds like the clutch cover plate springs have failed or the slave cylinder has failed.
 my bet the slave has gone.
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #4 on: 29 January 2013, 21:45:58 »

isnt sticking pedals more to do with the slave cylinder as opposed to the clutch itself? learning about clutches at the moment  ::)

if it is that dont you have to take the transmission out anyway? in which case prob best to stick az new clutch in at same time?
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #5 on: 29 January 2013, 21:46:28 »

Lack of clutch fluid ??? 

(I don't even know where the reservoir is on a manual omega .. is it combined with the brake one or separate ??)

Master cylinder seal gone ???

Return Spring failure ?

Those are the things I seem to remember from when I had cars with more pedals than feet ...  :)
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #6 on: 29 January 2013, 21:46:43 »

First check fluid level then bleed,clutch release dosnt like low fluid,if that dosnt cure then sounds like clutch gone u/s.
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #7 on: 29 January 2013, 21:47:08 »

yep slave is inside the bell housing. :(
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #8 on: 29 January 2013, 21:48:07 »

Fluid is same resovoir as brakes
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #9 on: 29 January 2013, 21:49:45 »

Fluid is same resovoir as brakes

AH . so low fluid would put the brake level light on  .. and that is not mentioned ...
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« Reply #10 on: 29 January 2013, 21:51:12 »

Mine did that when the flexi hose split. The pedal has an 'over-centre' spring to reduce the foot pressure required when you are waiting to release the clutch (which is way the pedal is pulled either up or down)

As others have said it might also be a failed master or slave cylinder.

Changing the flexi hose requires removal of the gearbox unfortunately as it screws into the side of the slave cylinder in the bell housing  :(
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #11 on: 29 January 2013, 21:54:09 »

Mine did that when the flexi hose split. The pedal has an 'over-centre' spring to reduce the foot pressure required when you are waiting to release the clutch (which is way the pedal is pulled either up or down)

As others have said it might also be a failed master or slave cylinder.

Changing the flexi hose requires removal of the gearbox unfortunately as it screws into the side of the slave cylinder in the bell housing  :(
+1 :y my saloon did same as OP's
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #12 on: 29 January 2013, 21:56:54 »

....
(I don't even know where the reservoir is on a manual omega .. is it combined with the brake one or separate ??)
 .....

Nige. If you look at the passenger side of your brake fluid reservoir you'll see a plastic pipe with a heat sealed crimp on the end ...... that's where the feed is for a clutch's share of fluid.  :y :y
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #13 on: 29 January 2013, 21:59:45 »

If the clutch springs fail the clutch will slip.

Master cylinder or fluid loss due to a failed hose is more likely
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Re: PLEASE HELP
« Reply #14 on: 29 January 2013, 22:03:06 »

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(I don't even know where the reservoir is on a manual omega .. is it combined with the brake one or separate ??)
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Nige. If you look at the passenger side of your brake fluid reservoir you'll see a plastic pipe with a heat sealed crimp on the end ...... that's where the feed is for a clutch's share of fluid.  :y :y

Ah thanks .. I've often wondered what that was all about :)
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