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[mantahatch]

Michelin Pilot Primacy   225 55 16    OE 16"
30,000 MILES NO TRAMLINING
Replaced pirelli P7000 TERRIBLE TRAMLINING.

I will second that, although I only 25K out of mine although they where changed at 2mm so may have got a bit more mileage. I would say a very good tyre but a bit pricey.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Michelin Pilot Primacy   225 55 16    OE 16"
30,000 MILES NO TRAMLINING
Replaced pirelli P7000 TERRIBLE TRAMLINING.

I will second that, although I only 25K out of mine although they where changed at 2mm so may have got a bit more mileage. I would say a very good tyre but a bit pricey.

I had MPP fitted to my MV6 before I changed to Goodyear Eagle F1 As 2. I would say that the F1's trounce the noisy Michelin's both objectively and subjectively.

[feeutfo]

Michelin Pilot Primacy   225 55 16    OE 16"
30,000 MILES NO TRAMLINING
Replaced pirelli P7000 TERRIBLE TRAMLINING.

I will second that, although I only 25K out of mine although they where changed at 2mm so may have got a bit more mileage. I would say a very good tyre but a bit pricey.

I had MPP fitted to my MV6 before I changed to Goodyear Eagle F1 As 2. I would say that the F1's trounce the noisy Michelin's both objectively and subjectively.

Interesting feedback

Opti Mantahatch and ffc gary, would you say that the Michelin PP where above an acceptable level though...? That's all we're really interested in at this stage.

Eg, where MPP stable,planted,with minimal corrections at the steering wheel type of acceptable? In short, no tram lining?


Sorry to bang in about it, but the reason I'm using that as a base level/minimum requirement, is if a tyre doesn't have that basic stability, it can have all the grip in the world, its of no use to the driver(except under emergency braking) as there's no confidence in the car at all. If that makes sense?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Michelin Pilot Primacy   225 55 16    OE 16"
30,000 MILES NO TRAMLINING
Replaced pirelli P7000 TERRIBLE TRAMLINING.

I will second that, although I only 25K out of mine although they where changed at 2mm so may have got a bit more mileage. I would say a very good tyre but a bit pricey.

I had MPP fitted to my MV6 before I changed to Goodyear Eagle F1 As 2. I would say that the F1's trounce the noisy Michelin's both objectively and subjectively.

Interesting feedback

Opti Mantahatch and ffc gary, would you say that the Michelin PP where above an acceptable level though...? That's all we're really interested in at this stage.

Eg, where MPP stable,planted,with minimal corrections at the steering wheel type of acceptable? In short, no tram lining?


Sorry to bang in about it, but the reason I'm using that as a base level/minimum requirement, is if a tyre doesn't have that basic stability, it can have all the grip in the world, its of no use to the driver(except under emergency braking) as there's no confidence in the car at all. If that makes sense?

If they were cheaper, then yes. But when price is added to the equation........then I'd say no. In my view you can do a lot better for £130-£140 a corner.

[mantahatch]

Michelin Pilot Primacy   225 55 16    OE 16"
30,000 MILES NO TRAMLINING
Replaced pirelli P7000 TERRIBLE TRAMLINING.

I will second that, although I only 25K out of mine although they where changed at 2mm so may have got a bit more mileage. I would say a very good tyre but a bit pricey.

I had MPP fitted to my MV6 before I changed to Goodyear Eagle F1 As 2. I would say that the F1's trounce the noisy Michelin's both objectively and subjectively.

Interesting feedback

Opti Mantahatch and ffc gary, would you say that the Michelin PP where above an acceptable level though...? That's all we're really interested in at this stage.

Eg, where MPP stable,planted,with minimal corrections at the steering wheel type of acceptable? In short, no tram lining?


Sorry to bang in about it, but the reason I'm using that as a base level/minimum requirement, is if a tyre doesn't have that basic stability, it can have all the grip in the world, its of no use to the driver(except under emergency braking) as there's no confidence in the car at all. If that makes sense?

I can safely say I had no tramlining. I would put them above mid range tyres purely on cost alone. The car drove very straight and true on them at speeds up to 70mph (ok 85 on one occasion).

[TheBoy]

I would put them above mid range tyres purely on cost alone.

I think cost isn't a factor in deciding what class it is in

[mantahatch]

I would put them above mid range tyres purely on cost alone.

I think cost isn't a factor in deciding what class it is in

Fair enough if cost is not a factor then def mid range for me. (It also makes them pigging expensive for a mid range tyre  )

[feeutfo]

The basis of this is minimal tramlining. Grip level as per group.

MUST BE VARIFIED BY TWO DIFFERENT MEMBERS


These tyres have been tested or owned ( which ever ) by Chrisgixer Taxi Al and TheBoy, vxlv6 , dbug, Mv6Matt and Entwood so far.

Premium
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric          Oe 17"
Continental Sc3 mo                          18" 8j  (also has more rim protection)
continental Sc3 generic                     Oe 17"
Dunlop sport maxx TT.                      Oe 17"
Michelin Pilot Primacy   225 55 16      OE 16" (expensive, and better available)

Mid range
Kumho ku31                                    Oe 17"
Pirelli p6000.                                    Oe 17"

Budget
Runway Enduro 916+ 97W XL            Oe17" and 16"  (priced as budget, mid range quality  )
Accelera Alphas                                Oe 16"
Toyo proxy t1r.                                 Oe 17"
Nexen CP461                                   Oe 16" (caution in standing water)

[Andy B]

....
Michelin Pilot Primacy   225 55 16    OE 16"
30,000 MILES NO TRAMLINING ....
I can safely say I had no tramlining. I would put them above mid range tyres purely on cost alone. The car drove very straight and true on them at speeds up to 70mph (ok 85 on one occasion).

Like wise - never had tramlining wit them, & have had a couple of sets of them

 ....... and now by comparison I can class them as a mid priced tyre! 

[Taxi_Driver]

No one tried Nankang NS2's ..... i used to like them on my 2.2....used to get over 20k out of them 

They're a budget tyre 

[Kevin Wood]

I can add recent experience of General Altimax UHP and Nexen N6000 in 235/45/17.

The Generals were pretty good, I reckon. Lowish noise level and pretty good grip. Fine in the wet. No significant tramlining until well worn but then did get a little choppy. Lasted 18K at a guess and still just about hanging on. I'd rate them about KU31 level overall. Now £90 a corner, though. I'll decide if they're worth that when the Runways have done a few more miles.

N6000s were on the back pretty much their whole life. Did try them on the front for a while, IIRC. Probably swapped them back to the rear where they started out due to tramlining. Pretty unremarkable, IMHO. Average in every respect. The back end of my car is normally pretty well planted and needs provocation to let go. It got a little twitch at times with these on. That said, they weren't so awful I couldn't live with them. Lasted 15K, but on the rear pretty much their whole life. For the grip level, that's faster wear than I would expect.

[feeutfo]

The basis of this is minimal tramlining. Grip level as per group.

MUST BE VARIFIED BY TWO DIFFERENT MEMBERS


These tyres have been tested or owned ( which ever ) by Chrisgixer Taxi Al and TheBoy, vxlv6 , dbug, Mv6Matt and Entwood so far.

Premium
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric          Oe 17"
Continental Sc3 mo                          18" 8j  (also has more rim protection)
continental Sc3 generic                     Oe 17"
Dunlop sport maxx TT.                      Oe 17"
Michelin Pilot Primacy   225 55 16      OE 16" (expensive, and better available)

Mid range
Kumho ku31                                    Oe 17"
Pirelli p6000.                                    Oe 17"

Budget
Runway Enduro 916+ 97W XL            Oe17" and 16"  (priced as budget, mid range quality  )
Accelera Alphas                                Oe 16"
Toyo proxy t1r.                                 Oe 17"
Nexen CP461                                   Oe 16" (caution in standing water)

I think we need to add speed and load ratings to these guys, if you get a minute.

[cem_devecioglu]

May I remind an important subject.. while changing tyres they will need re-balance evertime you fit..
 
I generally avoid this by marking tyre position (during summer-winter changes) but thats valid for the same car (and even with that sometimes I have encountered balance problems after a few months) ..  another car really requires balancing 
 
also , if you include newly fitted tyres and test it with hard braking (you have to) the tyre will turn around the wheel and require re-balance)
 
only solution is to reach 70-80 mph and check the tyres after each fit..

[feeutfo]

I think if a tyre goes out if balance, it will show up fairly obviously.

[cem_devecioglu]

I have seen lots of drivers with buckled wheels and not feeling anything