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[cem_devecioglu]

kin-ell is this still going on? a simply google search will show you that welding  the bog standard alloy wheel is cheap and common.the trouble is all you need is a couple of bodgers to mess it up(publicly) and all of a sudden, welding wheels is incriedably dangerous and you will die in a shower of alloy shards, guaranteed...

   yep..
 
 
problem is I said its repairable first.. so the whole thread turned to be controversial again
 
Sorry Manta..

[cem_devecioglu]

for those who want to see who pees longer , open a self thread and discuss with me as you wish

[mantahatch]

No need to apologize Cem. I have been guilty myself of going off topic.

All I would say is please no more arguing, it is not worth getting stressed over. Just agree to disagree and move on. 

[Entwood]

OK .. I'll bite .. it is nothing to do with "anti  cem" comments at all ... lets put it quite simply and I'll even do this to keep you all happy, and I'll use small words

IMHO

It has been repaired once and failed .. ergo,... repairs DO fail ... they are not infallible

The area that was repaired and failed has .. by definition,... been heated more than other parts of the wheel - you can't weld without heat (AFAIK) ... it is now to be subject to the same (or more) heat again

IMHO

that has the potential to further weaken a possibly already weakened area (don't tell me the welded area is stronger than the original .. it wouldn't have failed if it was)

Given the forces involved and the fact my life depends on my wheels and tyres

IMHO

the wheel is unsafe and should not be repaired.

happy now  

 

[cem_devecioglu]

no one is stupid.. most members know what is happening Entwood..
 
you may post your ideas freely anytime.. but making it longer is not helpful to netiher you nor Chris..
 
and I think he can defend himself anytime..

[Entwood]

no one is stupid.. most members know what is happening Entwood..
 
you may post your ideas freely anytime.. but making it longer is not helpful to netiher you nor Chris..
 
and I think he can defend himself anytime..

Now I am confused 

[feeutfo]

And IMO whoever re fitted the wheel was unable to tell if the weld was good quality or not, clearly, or they wouldn't have fitted it again.


Does the op know where the wheel was repaired?


And, off topic, it's amazing that you cem, should accuse others in such a way, when you did EXACTLY THAT yourself on numerous threads. One topic iirc was fitting front poly bushes with wishbones on the car. Something most members have done prior to and since. Again, with no ecperience of the issue and googling for Answers.
 

The issues here are very real on both sides. They are valid points, and for the op to accept or not.

[cem_devecioglu]

And IMO whoever re fitted the wheel was unable to tell if the weld was good quality or not, clearly, or they wouldn't have fitted it again.


Does the op know where the wheel was repaired?


And, off topic, it's amazing that you cem, should accuse others in such a way, when you did EXACTLY THAT yourself on numerous threads. One topic iirc was fitting front poly bushes with wishbones on the car. Something most members have done prior to and since. Again, with no ecperience of the issue and googling for Answers.
 

The issues here are very real on both sides. They are valid points, and for the op to accept or not.

Chris I dont agree with anything you have said as usual .. and I have no intention to turn this thread to tyre threads.. if you want open another one

[feeutfo]

Again I suspect this thread is heading for locking. As the majority if the input is not helpfull to the op.

Maybe if the op sent his wheel to sassanach he might stand a chance of a proper job.

But if it was mine, I'd bin it. Being honest. But that's for the op to decide. No?

[mantahatch]

And IMO whoever re fitted the wheel was unable to tell if the weld was good quality or not, clearly, or they wouldn't have fitted it again.


Does the op know where the wheel was repaired?


And, off topic, it's amazing that you cem, should accuse others in such a way, when you did EXACTLY THAT yourself on numerous threads. One topic iirc was fitting front poly bushes with wishbones on the car. Something most members have done prior to and since. Again, with no ecperience of the issue and googling for Answers.
 

The issues here are very real on both sides. They are valid points, and for the op to accept or not.

No, they are aftermarket wheels and this was picked in the morning with what at first appeared to be a puncture. It was only noticed when tyre fitter took tyre off to repair.

I will not stoke the flames by saying what our decision was, as I do not want this disagreement to escalate.

Please chaps, let it go.   

[feeutfo]

No worries mate. Best of luck with it, whatever you decide.

[cem_devecioglu]

And IMO whoever re fitted the wheel was unable to tell if the weld was good quality or not, clearly, or they wouldn't have fitted it again.


Does the op know where the wheel was repaired?


And, off topic, it's amazing that you cem, should accuse others in such a way, when you did EXACTLY THAT yourself on numerous threads. One topic iirc was fitting front poly bushes with wishbones on the car. Something most members have done prior to and since. Again, with no ecperience of the issue and googling for Answers.
 

The issues here are very real on both sides. They are valid points, and for the op to accept or not.

No, they are aftermarket wheels and this was picked in the morning with what at first appeared to be a puncture. It was only noticed when tyre fitter took tyre off to repair.

I will not stoke the flames by saying what our decision was, as I do not want this disagreement to escalate.

Please chaps, let it go. 

Manta, if you are going to use this wheel it will need paint.. I'll PM the details later

[hotel21]

Its turned out to be a bit of an emotive subject this.

Just like using second hand/part worn tyres.......

or second hand rims......

or similar.

Lets not get our nethergarments too far askew from the norm and create an unhappy thread.  OP has reached a conclusion and so the continued attempts by some to impose their thinking of the matter on others is simply causing grief.

Wont lock yet but, lets keep it tidy.

 

[scimmy_man]

the first repair looks a bit shoddy,

a proper repair with the crack drilled and ground out will outlast the car.

[dbdb]

I had two repaired, not a crack but rim damage.  Kept them on the rear but they outlasted the car and never even leaked.  Looking at the photo I'm not sure it has been welded before, had they welded it it would have cracked anywhere apart from the weld.  Maybe it was bodged with some epoxy, not a good idea.   

The problem is not whether they can be safely repaired, they can easily by a decent TIG welder as sassanach said.  The problem is only finding a decent welder and it's not that difficult.  I've welded alu before (a ladder!) it is the hardest to do and I wouldn't trust my efforts (nor would anyone looking at the weld!) but a practiced welder could do it easily, no xray kit required. Make sure they drill a hole at the end of the crack.