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[STMO123]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21426928

This, along with the ATOS controversy, could undermine welfare and work policy even further. Cameron was warned about this.

[Varche]

 

[albitz]

In the U.S. its called internship. People often start their careers in that way and work hard to to impress and work their way up.I dont see anything wrong in it,as long as the unpaid period is short and companies arent allowed to form a habit of shipping one out and another one in purely to get menial work done for nothing.
If all involved approach it with good intentions it could work well.

[STMO123]

In the U.S. its called internship. People often start their careers in that way and work hard to to impress and work their way up.I dont see anything wrong in it,as long as the unpaid period is short and companies arent allowed to form a habit of shipping one out and another one in purely to get menial work done for nothing.
If all involved approach it with good intentions it could work well.

It's against the law if people are forced into it. Slavery...as the appeal court has just ruled.

[STMO123]

I doubt many post grads would want an internship at poundland.

[aaronjb]

I doubt many post grads would want an internship at poundland.

No, but there are many minimum wage entry level jobs they could do while they look for their ideal job as a celebrity in new media with their degree in navel gazing media studies without even being forced into it... but that'd be beneath them, I suppose.

[STMO123]

I doubt many post grads would want an internship at poundland.

No, but there are many minimum wage entry level jobs they could do while they look for their ideal job as a celebrity in new media with their degree in navel gazing media studies without even being forced into it... but that'd be beneath them, I suppose.

Bit of a sweeping generalisation but, of course, nothing new.

[STMO123]

No doubt someone will be along soon to tell us it's all the fault of those pesky socialists. 

[albitz]

See,thats why we are in the mess were in tbh,and how we are gaining a reputation as a country that has to import its workforce because we dont want to work.If you need a job and an employer says you can come and work in their company for a couple of weeks so they can get an idea how good you are,you should jump at the chance imo.
Maybe it should be against the law to take half my wages off me and give it to someone who doesnt work ? To me thats much worse than this so called slavery.
A post grad should maybe be thinking that if nothing else is available,they could start at the bottom at poundland and be running the company before they are 40.Or maybe they are a post grad in nail care or similar?
As much as anything it demonstrates that far too many people are going to uni,and taking so called degrees that arent worth the paper they are written on when they have to go out into the real world.
Someone I know decided at 18 that a degree wasnt the way to  go thses days,so post A levels got a job 70 miles from home on around £16kp.a. before tax etc and travelling costs.It involved getting up at 5a.m. and getting home at between 8.p.m and 10p.m. ,3 trains and 2 tubes involved each way every day.
They worked hard (very hard) and ended up on £65k pa plus bonuses (sometimes big ones) and lots of other benefits,including free business trips to New York.
Theres no free lunches Steve,but if people are prepared to graft hard enough,its there for the taking.
I wish I had known all this when I was a bone idle teenager.

[STMO123]

This particular post grad studied biology, not nail care. She, and others, including people a lot older, thought that perhaps the government was going too far was maybe even breaking the law. They have been proved right but never doubt the governments ability to ignore that ruling and go to the supreme court.
There are a lot of people on here who spout righteous nonsense and, if put in a similar position, would scream blue murder.

[aaronjb]

There are a lot of people on here who spout righteous nonsense and, if put in a similar position, would scream blue murder.

There are also people who work in well paid technical jobs and volunteer their time to charities freely, without needing prompting from the government to do it, and who started out in their first job as a street sweeper..

[STMO123]

There are a lot of people on here who spout righteous nonsense and, if put in a similar position, would scream blue murder.

There are also people who work in well paid technical jobs and volunteer their time to charities freely, without needing prompting from the government to do it, and who started out in their first job as a street sweeper..

There you go then. A good cross-section without the need to generalise.

[albitz]

If I had a degree in Biology and there was no market for my skills currently in this country,I would be looking abroad to take my skills where I could get a good job with those skills.Surely thats a better option than being "forced into slave labour" in Poundland.
Tbh,the story doesnt really add up to me.Someone who has a degree in Biology is living on benefits and has no employment prospects whatsoever other than to work for free in Poundland ? Strange to say the least.
Btw,I have worked for nothing in the past.Employer hit hard times and I had work I really wanted to get done at the weekend.They said they couldnt afford to pay overtime so I went in and did the work anyway without clocking on or telling anyone I had been there.

[STMO123]

Well done, Albs

I wonder how many people would loose their jobs if we all did that.

[albitz]

Or how many businesses which go bust would have been able to survive and continue to employ people if more employees did that ? 

Or am I saying the same thing in a different way ? Hard to tell when your being sarcastic.