Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Search the maintenance guides for answers to 99.999% of Omega questions

Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP  (Read 5430 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Sir Tigger KC

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • West Dorset
  • Posts: 24814
    • BMW 530d Touring
    • View Profile
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #30 on: 21 February 2013, 01:01:58 »

A LimpDem or two would be amusing.  :)

Now what was I saying about LimpDems.....   :)
Logged
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Lizzie_Zoom

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #31 on: 21 February 2013, 16:25:19 »

Today I attended an outpatients appointment at a first class hospital.

The nurse was Polish, the Staff Nurse Hungarian (or at least her parents were when they first moved here) and the doctor Yugoslavian.

Wonderfully polite, helpful, well spoken English and obviously very knowledgeable. Working for the NHS, and how could we do without these new British, like so many other professionals we meet?

Good for the country and us? Yes!!

These are the immigrants that have made Britain Great in the past and are still doing so.

I will say no more :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X ;)
Logged

Nickbat

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #32 on: 21 February 2013, 16:37:23 »

Today I attended an outpatients appointment at a first class hospital.

The nurse was Polish, the Staff Nurse Hungarian (or at least her parents were when they first moved here) and the doctor Yugoslavian.

Wonderfully polite, helpful, well spoken English and obviously very knowledgeable. Working for the NHS, and how could we do without these new British, like so many other professionals we meet?

Good for the country and us? Yes!!

These are the immigrants that have made Britain Great in the past and are still doing so.

I will say no more :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X ;)

Good for you, Lizzie, but I can't see what this has to do with the thread.  ???
Logged

Lizzie_Zoom

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #33 on: 21 February 2013, 16:51:14 »

Today I attended an outpatients appointment at a first class hospital.

The nurse was Polish, the Staff Nurse Hungarian (or at least her parents were when they first moved here) and the doctor Yugoslavian.

Wonderfully polite, helpful, well spoken English and obviously very knowledgeable. Working for the NHS, and how could we do without these new British, like so many other professionals we meet?

Good for the country and us? Yes!!

These are the immigrants that have made Britain Great in the past and are still doing so.

I will say no more :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X ;)

Good for you, Lizzie, but I can't see what this has to do with the thread.  ???

You don't?! :o :o :o :o :o

UKIP - Racist, right wing aims in question?

As earlier posted:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/02/ukip-party-bigots-lets-look-evidence

It is not just about Europe - if it was I would be thoroughly voting UKIP - it goes a lot deeper and those clouds of doubt need addressing.

This is a thread about UKIP in essence.  I am making a point about immigration that seems to drive some on the OOF, and is a factor with the Daughter being discussed ;) ;) ;)
Logged

albitz

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #34 on: 21 February 2013, 16:58:22 »

I am very much against the mass uncontrolled immigration which was forced upon this country for despicable reasons in the last 10 years or so.
I am NOT a racist.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
Logged

Nickbat

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #35 on: 21 February 2013, 16:59:23 »

Today I attended an outpatients appointment at a first class hospital.

The nurse was Polish, the Staff Nurse Hungarian (or at least her parents were when they first moved here) and the doctor Yugoslavian.

Wonderfully polite, helpful, well spoken English and obviously very knowledgeable. Working for the NHS, and how could we do without these new British, like so many other professionals we meet?

Good for the country and us? Yes!!

These are the immigrants that have made Britain Great in the past and are still doing so.

I will say no more :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X ;)

Good for you, Lizzie, but I can't see what this has to do with the thread.  ???

You don't?! :o :o :o :o :o

UKIP - Racist, right wing aims in question?

As earlier posted:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/02/ukip-party-bigots-lets-look-evidence

It is not just about Europe - if it was I would be thoroughly voting UKIP - it goes a lot deeper and those clouds of doubt need addressing.

This is a thread about UKIP in essence.  I am making a point about immigration that seems to drive some on the OOF, and is a factor with the Daughter being discussed ;) ;) ;)

Oh, you mean these racists:



..and Nigel Farage is married to a German, Marta Andreasen (UKIP MEP) is an Argentine-born Spanish accountant

..and I'm married to a European, now a UK citizen.

Yep, we're all racists, Lizzie.

Sheesh.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Logged

Nickbat

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #36 on: 21 February 2013, 17:05:58 »

..and this is just in from the vice-chairman of your beloved Conservative party

http://order-order.com/2013/02/21/great-questions-of-our-time/

Very statesmanlike, I must say.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Logged

Lizzie_Zoom

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #37 on: 21 February 2013, 17:06:52 »

Today I attended an outpatients appointment at a first class hospital.

The nurse was Polish, the Staff Nurse Hungarian (or at least her parents were when they first moved here) and the doctor Yugoslavian.

Wonderfully polite, helpful, well spoken English and obviously very knowledgeable. Working for the NHS, and how could we do without these new British, like so many other professionals we meet?

Good for the country and us? Yes!!

These are the immigrants that have made Britain Great in the past and are still doing so.

I will say no more :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X ;)

Good for you, Lizzie, but I can't see what this has to do with the thread.  ???

You don't?! :o :o :o :o :o

UKIP - Racist, right wing aims in question?

As earlier posted:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/02/ukip-party-bigots-lets-look-evidence

It is not just about Europe - if it was I would be thoroughly voting UKIP - it goes a lot deeper and those clouds of doubt need addressing.

This is a thread about UKIP in essence.  I am making a point about immigration that seems to drive some on the OOF, and is a factor with the Daughter being discussed ;) ;) ;)

Oh, you mean these racists:



..and Nigel Farage is married to a German, Marta Andreasen (UKIP MEP) is an Argentine-born Spanish accountant

..and I'm married to a European, now a UK citizen.

Yep, we're all racists, Lizzie.

Sheesh.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

No, and you know I didn't mean that!!  You know fully about the threads / posts there have been on the OOF about the negatives concerning immigrants ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

For information what an individual has as friends does not always reflect their actual feelings i.e. Hitler once had many friends who were Jewish!! ::) ::) ::) 

If you are keeping such a close interest in UKIP you will know that some of that party have shown their colours by expressing views that are certainly not liberal, and have caused much concern about what UKIP is all about.  Just because a daughter of the Labour Party joins UKIP does not allay those concerns. ;) ;)
Logged

Lizzie_Zoom

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #38 on: 21 February 2013, 17:08:05 »

..and this is just in from the vice-chairman of your beloved Conservative party

http://order-order.com/2013/02/21/great-questions-of-our-time/

Very statesmanlike, I must say.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

What does that prove or mean?  It is fake and what is said is mad. ::) ::) ;)
Logged

Nickbat

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #39 on: 21 February 2013, 17:12:36 »

No, and you know I didn't mean that!!  You know fully about the threads / posts there have been on the OOF about the negatives concerning immigrants ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

For information what an individual has as friends does not always reflect their actual feelings i.e. Hitler once had many friends who were Jewish!! ::) ::) ::) 

If you are keeping such a close interest in UKIP you will know that some of that party have shown their colours by expressing views that are certainly not liberal, and have caused much concern about what UKIP is all about.  Just because a daughter of the Labour Party joins UKIP does not allay those concerns. ;) ;)

Are you talking about current officials of UKIP? If so, I love to see links to the quotes.

But maybe you're talking about UKIP supporters, I don't know, but I'd still like to see the evidence. Of course, all Tory supporters are very liberal, aren't they?  ::)

Or does your "evidence" just come from rumours in articles written by part-time hacks in The Guardian?  ???
Logged

Nickbat

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #40 on: 21 February 2013, 17:19:19 »

..and this is just in from the vice-chairman of your beloved Conservative party

http://order-order.com/2013/02/21/great-questions-of-our-time/

Very statesmanlike, I must say.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

What does that prove or mean? It is fake and what is said is mad. ::) ::) ;)

No it isn't fake, he had previously tweeted about a Big Mac being soft, but then thought it funny to make the "suck-job" tweet. Fine if your in a bar or amongst friends, but rather thoughtless in his position. Couldn't imagine a REAL Conservative like Norman Tebbit doing something like that. Times have obviously changed in the Tory party and they feel they have to pander to the Eastenders-type audience.
Logged

Lizzie_Zoom

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #41 on: 21 February 2013, 17:33:40 »



I know how you love links Nick so:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jakewallissimons/100197312/after-a-public-row-about-same-sex-marriage-ukip-have-gone-from-smug-to-scared/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/dec/15/nigel-farage-ukip-anti-gay-groups

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/another-ukip-public-figure-leaves-party-amid-same-sex-marriage-row-8448179.html

and of course:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/02/ukip-party-bigots-lets-look-evidence

For us the UK voters we must be sure of UKIP and their TRUE policies and establish what is true or not, but the connections with European far right parties is very concerning, as is his refusal to block European funding for the BNP in Britain.

Many Germans were fooled by Hitler in thinking his policies were all sweetness and light and would do so much good for the German people.  To start with that was true......................history records what happened next.

I know Nick, of course I do, that certain people may spread anti UKIP propaganda, but that part is far from transparent and we the British public do not know the whole truth.  We must establish that before we start voting UKIP. ;) ;)
Logged

Terbs

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Brackley/Wareham
  • Posts: 5729
  • The Freezer Geezer
    • CD Saloon 2003
    • View Profile
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #42 on: 21 February 2013, 17:45:21 »

I am very much against the mass uncontrolled immigration which was forced upon this country for despicable reasons in the last 10 years or so.
I am NOT a racist.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

Albs, Albs, Albs.....have you not learnt yet.. :( :(

You are not allowed an opinion......
If you like or vote UKIP.....you are a rascist...
If you are against immigration.....you are a rascist...
If you don't vote Tory, Lab or Lib Dem.....you are a rascist......
If you don't believe in Foreign Aid....you are a rascist.....
If you don't believe in Europe.....you are a rascist.....
If you believe in housing local people first....you are a rascist....

You have to be a rascist, Albs, because you don't have the same opinion as others, you are not allowed to have a different opinion.

Its so simple, mate :y

Logged
Wrong Switch Tony......flicking the wrong bit for 50 years

Lizzie_Zoom

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #43 on: 21 February 2013, 17:48:15 »

In case some do not want to wade through the New Statesman article, I enter below a section from it on UKIP and far right parties.  Also note the comment by Alan Sked, the founder of UKIP from an  earlier party AFL, which is quoted elsewhere away from the New Statesmen piece:

"Links with European far-right parties
Ukip is part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). The group includes representatives of the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the infamous Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation."

Mario Borghezio, another member of the group, declared in a radio interview that Breivik had some "excellent" ideas. Farage’s reaction was to write a strongly-worded letter to Borghezio, asking him to withdraw his comments or Ukip would pull out of the EFD. Borghezio not only did not apologise, but responded with an extraordinary speech in which he raged: "Long live the Whites of Europe, long live our identity, our ethnicity, our race… our blue sky, like the eyes of our women. Blue, in a people who want to stay white."

Nigel Farage did not withdraw from the EFD. He continues to co-preside over it, along with the leader of the Lega Nord. MEP Nikki Sinclaire, however, was expelled from Ukip for refusing to take part in the EFD because of their “extreme views”.

Links with domestic far-right parties
“Ukip has no links to the BNP,” explained Farage in 2007. The first line of any description of Ukip calls it “a libertarian, non-racist party”. What party, other than one skating close to the lines of taste and decency, needs to describe itself as “non-racist”? Farage boasted on The Andrew Marr Show (20 January 2013) that “Ukip is the only UK party to explicitly ban BNP members from joining”. What party, other than a party whose policies are attractive to such organisations, would need to do that?

Christopher Monckton, their Scotland Leader and Head of Policy Unit invited the now-defunct British Freedom Party – an amalgamation of mostly breakaway BNP members led by a former Ukip candidate until January 2013 – to join Ukip: “I would very much like them to come back and join us and we stand together.” Ukip’s excuse for this lapse? Monckton had been away on a tour of the US and was not up to speed with current policy. More recently, however, Farage refused to vote to oppose moves for the European Union to fund the BNP.

The founder of the party, Alan Sked, says it has become "extraordinarily right-wing" and is now devoted to "creating a fuss, via Islam and immigrants”.

Food for consideration at least. :y :y
« Last Edit: 21 February 2013, 17:51:03 by Lizzie Zoom »
Logged

Lizzie_Zoom

  • Guest
Re: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
« Reply #44 on: 21 February 2013, 18:14:29 »

I am very much against the mass uncontrolled immigration which was forced upon this country for despicable reasons in the last 10 years or so.
I am NOT a racist.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

Albs, Albs, Albs.....have you not learnt yet.. :( :(

You are not allowed an opinion......
If you like or vote UKIP.....you are a rascist...
If you are against immigration.....you are a rascist...
If you don't vote Tory, Lab or Lib Dem.....you are a rascist......
If you don't believe in Foreign Aid....you are a rascist.....
If you don't believe in Europe.....you are a rascist.....
If you believe in housing local people first....you are a rascist....

You have to be a rascist, Albs, because you don't have the same opinion as others, you are not allowed to have a different opinion.

Its so simple, mate :y

No Terbert! ::) ::) ::)  You are allowed an opinion. We all are in this democracy of ours.  It is our right to question the policies of all political parties, including UKIP which happens to be the subject of this thread.

There are questions to be answered by that party, and just because I and others wish to ask questions does not mean we think all those that support that party are the things you have stated.  They are issues we need answers to, as, and I am careful how often I draw this parallel with history, but many Germans who did not support the Nazis were considered eventually anti-state and enemies of it.  That is because Hitler dismantled the democratic system within a year of taking power shortly after noon on January 30th 1933, because the German people gave Hitler the opportunity to do so as they were either totally compliant or they were too afraid to do anything else but go along with it. Before you say "Lizzie, so you think UKIP is a bunch of Nazis"; NO, I do not. However as I keep on saying, we all must be very careful about what we wish for; we must ensure a new party that UKIP is does become fully transparent and we know exactly what their policies are, and, very importantly, how they align themselves with other European parties, especially if involving far right parties that is being suggested in political circles, along with indications that could be the case.

Control who comes into the country - YES!;  Control, or eradicate, the powers of the EU - YES!; Question Foreign Aid? - YES!; Vote for any party you wish to take power - YES!; Rid ourselves of all terrorist threats by ANY group - YES!; but for goodness sake before we do let's check those facts.  There ARE right wing racists out there, such as the BNP and EDL, so please do not by default hand them power.  It is not the way Great Britain's future should go.

I hope now everyone understands at least my position, which is very transparent!  :y :y :y :y
« Last Edit: 21 February 2013, 18:16:44 by Lizzie Zoom »
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.013 seconds with 17 queries.