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[ozzycat]

well said lizzie if you own atv or any devixe to watch any program or film or sport ect you need a tv licence so you are breaking the law so technicaly you are a criminal so take some advice get a licence or take the concequences geof or get rid of all your veiwing devices

[albitz]

I have my doubts tbh.Your not watching a broadcast and arent recording one to watch it later.Im not certain though.
Anyway,if the Beeb is so good,why not allow it to become a commercial company and blow SKY out of the water with its much superior content ?  It could show adverts and be free to view,or view by subscription.
I know you have a fondness for Aunty Beeb Lizzie,but read some of the links I posted.Even the DG admitted left wing bias.It was hijacked by lefties slowly but surely from the late 60,s and lost objectivity a long time ago.

[ozzycat]

i think it would be good to let the beeb show adverts albitz like you say and get rid of the licence but as ive said before the goverment will find away to charge us for it

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I have my doubts tbh.Your not watching a broadcast and arent recording one to watch it later.Im not certain though.
Anyway,if the Beeb is so good,why not allow it to become a commercial company and blow SKY out of the water with its much superior content ?  It could show adverts and be free to view,or view by subscription.
I know you have a fondness for Aunty Beeb Lizzie,but read some of the links I posted.Even the DG admitted left wing bias.It was hijacked by lefties slowly but surely from the late 60,s and lost objectivity a long time ago.

Yes I am guilty!!   I do have a fondness of the BBC.  However, I am not silly, contrary to what some people think, and I have noted all your and general national comments about the BBC bias.  However, I do feel more is good than bad so on balance they deserve their World reputation, especially on their programmes like documentaries and drama, let alone the news output.

As for the licence there is a grey area when it comes to I-Player, but to get that you do use either a PC or a digital box which are included in the remit of the licence, and in anycase you are technically watching a broadcast that is live in one sense, or at least  recorded in another!

One for the lawyers I think, but certainly there are very few of us who do not watch live TV in some form or another, and need a licence.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

i think it would be good to let the beeb show adverts albitz like you say and get rid of the licence but as ive said before the goverment will find away to charge us for it

Or product placement perhaps?

Either way it is a slippery slope to commercial television

[ozzycat]

it is ileagle to watch iplayer on any device without a tv licence becausr the device is capable of reciving a tv signal

[geoffr70]

I am well aware of the Communication Act 2003, and the deliberately misleading and downright disgraceful stance of TV licensing, and I don't need you or anyone else to tell me thanks.

You've obviously either missed it, of deliberately ignored the crucial part in my post. I am not required in law to have a tv license. I'm still waiting for your apology.

A tv license is only required to watch or record tv on any device capable of doing so, as it's being broadcast, which I don't do in any place in which I would be liable for paying tv tax, if I were to watch tv.

Still waiting Lizzie 

[geoffr70]

it is ileagle to watch iplayer on any device without a tv licence becausr the device is capable of reciving a tv signal

Wrong. If its being streamed not at the same time it's being broadcast it's not a tv signal and a tv license is not required.

[albitz]

That is my understanding.Makes sense to me.

[Steve B]

tv license is free for the over 75 

[Allenm]

Do we need a tv licence to watch iplayer ? 

Yes

According to the "regulations" as far as we can interpret.   That is because you are using a diggy box to watch the I-Player that is classed as a recorded programme and comes under the TV Licence mandate.

Completely wrong!!!!  you only need a TV licence if you watch TV as it is broadcast - Latency delay notwithstanding, if the programme being watched has already been broadcast, you do not need a licence to "catch up" with it. 

Better to read the rules, rather than scan them for words that prove your point.

[ozzycat]

you had better read again if you have a device that is caperble of recieving a tv signal weather you only use to record or not if it can recieve a tv signal you by law you need a tv licence be it a tv /pc phone or any thing else  iplayer is capable of broadcasting live tv so you need a licrnce you do not need a tv licence if you are blind or one person living in your house is 75 or over

[Steve B]

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_tv_progs/tvlicence

[Allenm]

you had better read again if you have a device that is caperble of recieving a tv signal weather you only use to record or not if it can recieve a tv signal you by law you need a tv licence be it a tv /pc phone or any thing else  iplayer is capable of broadcasting live tv so you need a licrnce you do not need a tv licence if you are blind or one person living in your house is 75 or over

I don't need to read it again!  but you clearly do.

From TV Licencing Website:

A reminder of the law
 
The law states that you need to be covered by a TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes, on any device, as they're being shown on TV. This includes TVs, computers, mobile phones, games consoles, digital boxes and Blu-ray/DVD/VHS recorders.
 
You don't need a licence if you don't use any of these devices to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV - for example, if you use your TV only to watch DVDs or play video games, or you only watch ‘catch up’ services like BBC iPlayer or 4oD.

[ozzycat]

as i was saying to record  or watch program live on iplayer im not disagreeing about catchup tv but as it says any device caperble o watching live tv needs a licence im not saying its a good thing i dont see why you have to pay twice if you have sky or virgin thats not fair