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Ken T

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LPG take off ?
« on: 06 May 2008, 00:08:03 »
With the camping season approaching, I was just wondering, as camping stoves use what is basically LPG, if your car was converted to run on LPG, couldn't you arrange a feed point to drive a gas cooker ?. Saves having an LPG tank in the boot, and another heavy bottle to feed a cooker ?.

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Re: LPG take off ?
« Reply #1 on: 06 May 2008, 00:25:48 »
I could see no reason why not, you just need a 'take off' point. I plug my bbq into my static caravan, saves and extra bottle, just the same really. :) :) :)
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Re: LPG take off ?
« Reply #2 on: 06 May 2008, 00:30:28 »
I think the major problem would be regulation ...

LPG from a bottle to a 'van goes through a regulator, and is positioned such that only GAS reaches the regulator...

AFAIK  LPG in a car is LIQUID up to the EVAPORATOR ....

There is no 37mbar regulator built in ... this is of paramount importance .... ie your SAFETY !!!

It MIGHT be possible to fit a regulator ... but I see problems with liquid LPG reaching the regulator ... will FUBAR it very fast !!!
« Last Edit: 06 May 2008, 09:15:10 by entwood »
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Re: LPG take off ?
« Reply #3 on: 06 May 2008, 09:05:15 »
You can buy a connector but I was told it is illegal to transfer from bottle to car.
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Re: LPG take off ?
« Reply #4 on: 06 May 2008, 09:08:32 »
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You can buy a connector but I was told it is illegal to transfer from bottle to car.


Methinks he wishes to do something different !!  :)

The question was using the CAR supply to run camping equipment to REPLACE the bottle, not filling the car from a bottle......??

Major different ball game IMHO
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« Reply #5 on: 06 May 2008, 09:11:11 »
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You can buy a connector but I was told it is illegal to transfer from bottle to car.

You can -- but that's the wrong way about for this thread. BTW it's not illegal to transfer from bottle to car --- it is illegal to then use said gas on the road as no fuel duty has been paid. Just the job for off-roaders tho  ;)

For the use talked about here I would think you would have to fabricate a take off point at the top of the tank, so that it draws vapour. From that run a length of hose up to a regulator.

Pretty dodgy mod tho IMO  :-/
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Re: LPG take off ?
« Reply #6 on: 06 May 2008, 09:12:56 »
In principle it's no problem. You do need to take off the vapour rather than the liquid so you would need a take-off from the top of the tank feeding a regulator down to 37mbar or 28mbar or whatever your applicance needs. I think such things are done on motorhomes, although maybe not from the tank that feeds the engine.

Who knows what an insurance assessor would make of such an arrangement?

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« Reply #7 on: 06 May 2008, 09:15:28 »
IMHO:
I think there`s one obvious 'against' to this idea: insurance!.....the LPG system (surely) has to be 'officially' certified in order for the car insurance cover to be valid.....altering the LPG system in any way would invalidate the certification and (consequently) most-likely your insurance too.

Edit: Note to self, `must learn to type more quickly!  ;D
« Last Edit: 06 May 2008, 09:17:04 by Debs. »
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« Reply #8 on: 06 May 2008, 09:17:41 »
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IMHO:
I think there`s one obvious 'against' to this idea: insurance!.....the LPG system (surely) has to be 'officially' certified in order for the car insurance cover to be valid.....altering the LPG system in any way would invalidate the certification and (consequently) most-likely your insurance too.

Debs wins again --- apart from blowing oneself up :o -- very valid point  :)
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Re: LPG take off ?
« Reply #9 on: 06 May 2008, 10:11:22 »
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IMHO:
I think there`s one obvious 'against' to this idea: insurance!.....the LPG system (surely) has to be 'officially' certified in order for the car insurance cover to be valid.....altering the LPG system in any way would invalidate the certification and (consequently) most-likely your insurance too.

Edit: Note to self, `must learn to type more quickly!  ;D
Heck knows what the insurance assessors will make of my DIY conversions, then ;D
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Re: LPG take off ?
« Reply #10 on: 06 May 2008, 10:20:05 »
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IMHO:
I think there`s one obvious 'against' to this idea: insurance!.....the LPG system (surely) has to be 'officially' certified in order for the car insurance cover to be valid.....altering the LPG system in any way would invalidate the certification and (consequently) most-likely your insurance too.

Edit: Note to self, `must learn to type more quickly!  ;D
Heck knows what the insurance assessors will make of my DIY conversions, then ;D

Having seen a number of 'professionally' installed setups, they will think its an excellent job so no need to worry there!
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« Reply #11 on: 06 May 2008, 11:58:49 »
You can get specialised multivalves for this job - may need a different tank - called vapour take off
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« Reply #12 on: 06 May 2008, 11:59:26 »
My DIY install seems fine!
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Re: LPG take off ?
« Reply #13 on: 06 May 2008, 19:59:45 »
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IMHO:
I think there`s one obvious 'against' to this idea: insurance!.....the LPG system (surely) has to be 'officially' certified in order for the car insurance cover to be valid.....altering the LPG system in any way would invalidate the certification and (consequently) most-likely your insurance too.

Edit: Note to self, `must learn to type more quickly!  ;D

Certification has been widely accepted as 'jobs for the boys'

I did mine myself, the only question the insurance company asked was 'was it fitted by a trained mechanic' yes was my reply and that was it.

i am a C&G trained mechanic so technically i was not lying
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Re: LPG take off ?
« Reply #14 on: 07 May 2008, 10:18:14 »
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IMHO:
I think there`s one obvious 'against' to this idea: insurance!.....the LPG system (surely) has to be 'officially' certified in order for the car insurance cover to be valid.....altering the LPG system in any way would invalidate the certification and (consequently) most-likely your insurance too.

Edit: Note to self, `must learn to type more quickly!  ;D

Certification has been widely accepted as 'jobs for the boys'

I did mine myself, the only question the insurance company asked was 'was it fitted by a trained mechanic' yes was my reply and that was it.

i am a C&G trained mechanic so technically i was not lying

Nice... I'm not officially trained but it's how I made a living for quite a few years, including getting my MOT testers certificate!

However, as I have said before, with a bit of careful searching you can easily find insurance with no certification required.

As for the running of a stove... It can be done but why would you want to. LPG at the pump is now getting more expensive than bottled and you've paid duty on it for road use... at least use it on the road and get your moneys worth!!!  :-/ :-/ :y :y
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