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UK energy situation is getting dire
« on: 19 February 2013, 08:29:31 »

“About 10pc of our current generation stock goes next month as coal and oil fired power stations close earlier than expected to meet environmental targets,”

Forget the stupid targets, let's just keep them open. :y

"Within three years we will see reserve margin of generation fall from around 14 per cent to below 5pc. That is uncomfortably tight.”

"...average household energy bills have already risen 159pc since 2004"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/9878281/Ofgem-boss-warns-of-higher-energy-prices-in-supply-roller-coaster.html

IMHO, this government (and the previous bunch) are guilty of killing off this country with their short-sighted, almost willful, incompetence. Bloody windmills everywhere and horrendous energy costs, which have forced many into fuel poverty. >:( >:( >:(

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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #1 on: 19 February 2013, 08:33:22 »

 >:( >:( i bet that we are the only country that is obeying these stupid rules again >:( >:(
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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #2 on: 19 February 2013, 09:12:50 »

Best we build some more wind turbines then  :-X :-X :-X ;D
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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #3 on: 19 February 2013, 10:03:38 »

Nice and sunny today! Quick get some solar panels up!!!  ::)
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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #4 on: 19 February 2013, 10:44:28 »

Need someone(The Chinese possibly) to come up with large sums of money to build some nuclear.

Of course we still haven't bottomed out how to decommission the old ones yet. I read that the cleanup at Windscale isn't complete and there is no end date either. The bill so far £65 billion/million who knows..............

I agree successive governments have ducked this and other issues.
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« Reply #5 on: 19 February 2013, 12:32:16 »

Best stock up some more wood logs for the when the gas and electric runs out , back to the dark ages  ::)
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« Reply #6 on: 19 February 2013, 12:35:13 »

Need someone(The Chinese possibly) to come up with large sums of money to build some nuclear.

Of course we still haven't bottomed out how to decommission the old ones yet. I read that the cleanup at Windscale isn't complete and there is no end date either. The bill so far £65 billion/million who knows..............

I agree successive governments have ducked this and other issues.

The Japanese in the form of  Hitachi have agreed to build two new nuclear power stations, and I have a thought in the back of my mind that the French, in the form of EDF, are intending to build others (?).

Certainly down here in the SE, Dungeness is very keen indeed to have one of those plants built to replace the Dungeness B plant that has had it's life extended to at least 2018.

Nuclear power must be the way for mass power generation. :y :y
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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #7 on: 19 February 2013, 13:48:25 »

if its kept safe lizzie i think nuclear is the only way but why do we allways follow the rules to the jetter when outher eu countrys choose to ignore them and get away with it
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« Reply #8 on: 19 February 2013, 16:31:38 »

if its kept safe lizzie i think nuclear is the only way but why do we allways follow the rules to the jetter when outher eu countrys choose to ignore them and get away with it

But do they?

Is it not a case that our governments have been slow over decades to update our nuclear power industry. France, who we so often love to rib, is way ahead on this game and is selling us electric and running our existing nuclear plants.  They have already made provisions to reduce their carbon omissions, so are not in the same position as us.  As for the rest; I really do not know.  We however must look  after ourselves and provide the generating capacity we need regardless of what Europe is doing. ;)
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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #9 on: 19 February 2013, 17:35:03 »

Oh its such a scandal. Thank god for the DT to point out the bleedin' obvious. Again.

Do they stockpile these stories for slow days? And make up stats to paint a picture by slightly abusing them?

Still, it'll be summer soon, and then Global Warming Climate Change will once again become the media's favourite.
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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #10 on: 19 February 2013, 17:37:25 »

The key 'So what' from this is the effect it will have on wholesale gas costs and the knock-on with LPG.....it doesn't look good  :(
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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #11 on: 19 February 2013, 17:43:34 »

The key 'So what' from this is the effect it will have on wholesale gas costs and the knock-on with LPG.....it doesn't look good  :(
Remain unconvinced, as they are based on oil prices...
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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #12 on: 19 February 2013, 17:44:24 »

Scope for blackouts is more concerning. But currently unconcerned about that either
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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #13 on: 19 February 2013, 17:47:11 »

 the price of genorators will go through the roof :D :D :D
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Re: UK energy situation is getting dire
« Reply #14 on: 19 February 2013, 17:51:59 »

Nuclear power must be the way for mass power generation. :y :y

You know, I'm not so sure about nuclear...  :-\ 

I know what they say about the safety records and the fact that it's regarded as a 'clean' energy source in terms of carbon dioxide emissions, but and I think it's a big BUT, as far as I'm aware they still havn't worked out a decent way of dealing with the waste, apart from burying it in deep deep holes.....  :-\

I think we could be creating a massive time bomb for future generations and it makes me a bit uneasy,   :-\  but when there's multi billion pound contracts at stake however, lets not worry about that right now hey??  ::)

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