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[2boxerdogs]

Nothing suprises me about this announcement, they won't be satisfied until more people are out of work, & our old folk are freezing to death  god knows what's in store for my grandkids.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Nuclear power must be the way for mass power generation.

You know, I'm not so sure about nuclear...   

I know what they say about the safety records and the fact that it's regarded as a 'clean' energy source in terms of carbon dioxide emissions, but and I think it's a big BUT, as far as I'm aware they still havn't worked out a decent way of dealing with the waste, apart from burying it in deep deep holes..... 

I think we could be creating a massive time bomb for future generations and it makes me a bit uneasy,     but when there's multi billion pound contracts at stake however, lets not worry about that right now hey?? 

But won't we eventually decide to aim all the waste at the Sun  once we have developed the space craft that can do so?  Just my thought about the future of this nuclear waste.

[Gaffers]

The key 'So what' from this is the effect it will have on wholesale gas costs and the knock-on with LPG.....it doesn't look good 

Remain unconvinced, as they are based on oil prices...

True but gas power generation likely to go up as a result of this and I think it will be used as an excuse to bump up the prices some more.  In fact I wouldn't be suprised that the recent hikes in wholesale price blamed by the likes of ASDA, etc are due to the power stations knowing they will need to produce extra power shortly.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Nuclear power must be the way for mass power generation.

You know, I'm not so sure about nuclear...   

I know what they say about the safety records and the fact that it's regarded as a 'clean' energy source in terms of carbon dioxide emissions, but and I think it's a big BUT, as far as I'm aware they still havn't worked out a decent way of dealing with the waste, apart from burying it in deep deep holes..... 

I think we could be creating a massive time bomb for future generations and it makes me a bit uneasy,     but when there's multi billion pound contracts at stake however, lets not worry about that right now hey?? 

But won't we eventually decide to aim all the waste at the Sun  once we have developed the space craft that can do so?  Just my thought about the future of this nuclear waste.

Yeah good idea Lizzie!! Let's not worry about the lights going out..... We'll have a good go at putting the sun out instead!!!   

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Nuclear power must be the way for mass power generation.

You know, I'm not so sure about nuclear...   

I know what they say about the safety records and the fact that it's regarded as a 'clean' energy source in terms of carbon dioxide emissions, but and I think it's a big BUT, as far as I'm aware they still havn't worked out a decent way of dealing with the waste, apart from burying it in deep deep holes..... 

I think we could be creating a massive time bomb for future generations and it makes me a bit uneasy,     but when there's multi billion pound contracts at stake however, lets not worry about that right now hey?? 

But won't we eventually decide to aim all the waste at the Sun  once we have developed the space craft that can do so?  Just my thought about the future of this nuclear waste.

Yeah good idea Lizzie!! Let's not worry about the lights going out..... We'll have a good go at putting the sun out instead!!!  

Well, so what........it will go on for some billions of years yet!

[Sir Tigger KC]

Not if we go firing shit into it!!! 

[Rods2]

Nuclear power stations will not be built and running for a decade or two or more. The Government has delayed it by years and are escalating costs due to excessive H & S. Remember the Energy department is run by loony and sometimes criminal Lib Dems, who as part of their climate change religion consider nuclear power Beelzebub itself. 

This is why several companies have pulled out of building the nuclear plants the remaining European company EDF is now sitting on the fence on whether they will go ahead. 

While the rest of the world is moving on nuclear technology, where we have no development program we will essentially be building last generation technology with its inherent problems, which may include not enough uranium fuel as there is predicted to be a serious world shortage by 2025. The next generation Thorium power station, known world reserves will last for over 1,000 years for present and predicted energy growth requirements.

Thorium power stations are inherently much safer and also produce a fraction of the waste with much shorter half-life particles compared to uranium. Thorium fuel needs a primer which can be current nuclear waste which it turns into usable safer material as well as generating power. Fortunately Cumbria voted out us burying it as future generations are going to want to use it.

Again it is the rising industrial stars of the 21st century in Asia that are leading development, with no major research programs in Western countries where they are all trying their hardest to see who can be the poorest 3rd world country by the end of the 21st century, but at least if the politicians have their way we will all be equally poor, with the same equality of misery.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Nuclear power stations will not be built and running for a decade or two or more. The Government has delayed it by years and are escalating costs due to excessive H & S. Remember the Energy department is run by loony and sometimes criminal Lib Dems, who as part of their climate change religion consider nuclear power Beelzebub itself. 

This is why several companies have pulled out of building the nuclear plants the remaining European company EDF is now sitting on the fence on whether they will go ahead.

While the rest of the world is moving on nuclear technology, where we have no development program we will essentially be building last generation technology with its inherent problems, which may include not enough uranium fuel as there is predicted to be a serious world shortage by 2025. The next generation Thorium power station, known world reserves will last for over 1,000 years for present and predicted energy growth requirements.

Thorium power stations are inherently much safer and also produce a fraction of the waste with much shorter half-life particles compared to uranium. Thorium fuel needs a primer which can be current nuclear waste which it turns into usable safer material as well as generating power. Fortunately Cumbria voted out us burying it as future generations are going to want to use it.

Again it is the rising industrial stars of the 21st century in Asia that are leading development, with no major research programs in Western countries where they are all trying their hardest to see who can be the poorest 3rd world country by the end of the 21st century, but at least if the politicians have their way we will all be equally poor, with the same equality of misery.

As I stated earlier, has not Hitachi agreed in principle to build two nuclear plants? 

[Nickbat]

Nuclear power stations will not be built and running for a decade or two or more. The Government has delayed it by years and are escalating costs due to excessive H & S. Remember the Energy department is run by loony and sometimes criminal Lib Dems, who as part of their climate change religion consider nuclear power Beelzebub itself. 

This is why several companies have pulled out of building the nuclear plants the remaining European company EDF is now sitting on the fence on whether they will go ahead. 

While the rest of the world is moving on nuclear technology, where we have no development program we will essentially be building last generation technology with its inherent problems, which may include not enough uranium fuel as there is predicted to be a serious world shortage by 2025. The next generation Thorium power station, known world reserves will last for over 1,000 years for present and predicted energy growth requirements.

Thorium power stations are inherently much safer and also produce a fraction of the waste with much shorter half-life particles compared to uranium. Thorium fuel needs a primer which can be current nuclear waste which it turns into usable safer material as well as generating power. Fortunately Cumbria voted out us burying it as future generations are going to want to use it.

Again it is the rising industrial stars of the 21st century in Asia that are leading development, with no major research programs in Western countries where they are all trying their hardest to see who can be the poorest 3rd world country by the end of the 21st century, but at least if the politicians have their way we will all be equally poor, with the same equality of misery.

In the meantime, many other countries (including Germany) are currently building coal-powered stations (over 1,000 planned around the world). Not us, though. We'll just sit and await the blackouts and say that we're being very green.   

[Nickbat]

Oh its such a scandal. Thank god for the DT to point out the bleedin' obvious. Again.

Do they stockpile these stories for slow days? And make up stats to paint a picture by slightly abusing them?

Still, it'll be summer soon, and then Global Warming Climate Change will once again become the media's favourite.

It was based on a report by Ofgem published today. That's why it's on all the TV news programmes. Still, if you think it's all about the DT bringing up old stories because it's a slow news day, then carry on.

The fact is that we are heading for major problems and I for one will be happy if they these reports get repeated enough so that the people get angry and the government gets to grips with the situation. If we get a very cold winter next year, there could be thousands dying needlessly (especially pensioners) because they have been forced into fuel poverty. Still, as you say, summer's coming so let's forget about it.

[STMO123]

Monty python voice on/ "Fuel poverty is just a nasty rumour being put about by people who can't afford gas".

[TheBoy]

I was in Iceland for the past few days.  All their heating, hot water and electricity is from natural sources. Lucky buggers.

[STMO123]

If it gets really cold, we could all huddle with Gixer. Mmmmmmm........I'd like that.

[Rods2]

Nuclear power stations will not be built and running for a decade or two or more. The Government has delayed it by years and are escalating costs due to excessive H & S. Remember the Energy department is run by loony and sometimes criminal Lib Dems, who as part of their climate change religion consider nuclear power Beelzebub itself. 

This is why several companies have pulled out of building the nuclear plants the remaining European company EDF is now sitting on the fence on whether they will go ahead.

While the rest of the world is moving on nuclear technology, where we have no development program we will essentially be building last generation technology with its inherent problems, which may include not enough uranium fuel as there is predicted to be a serious world shortage by 2025. The next generation Thorium power station, known world reserves will last for over 1,000 years for present and predicted energy growth requirements.

Thorium power stations are inherently much safer and also produce a fraction of the waste with much shorter half-life particles compared to uranium. Thorium fuel needs a primer which can be current nuclear waste which it turns into usable safer material as well as generating power. Fortunately Cumbria voted out us burying it as future generations are going to want to use it.

Again it is the rising industrial stars of the 21st century in Asia that are leading development, with no major research programs in Western countries where they are all trying their hardest to see who can be the poorest 3rd world country by the end of the 21st century, but at least if the politicians have their way we will all be equally poor, with the same equality of misery.

As I stated earlier, has not Hitachi agreed in principle to build two nuclear plants? 

In the words of that famous quiz show, if: "The price is right"

From both companies it is based upon investment v return with ever increasing anal H & S planning and rules and their impact on their costs and the Government guarantees on minimum electricity prices they will be paid will decide on whether they will go ahead.

With their coastal locations and their last generation uranium based boiling kettle technology then unlike natural core cooling Thorium cores and gravity fed liquid sodium circulation so they have inherent passive safety features, things like tsunami protection has to be catered for and built into the boiling kettle designs.

[STMO123]

We're doomed! Doomed I tell you.