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Re: F1
« Reply #15 on: 24 March 2013, 21:23:18 »

Vettell showed his true colours today imo.He cheated on his own team mate.Im no lover of team orders,I think they are bad for pure racing,but he was given them befor the race and apparently didnt argue (as he probably presumed he would be the one to benefit).
The important fact is that Webber believed that once past a certain point in the race the team orders would kick in,so he was victim of an unfair attack.He wasnt expecting it to happen,so was defensively weak.
Im sure he has quietly obeyed this order quite a few times in the past,thus helping Vettell to win his world championships.
Vettell is yet another arrogant,selfish cheat from the same mould as Scumacher (but with a lot less intelligence).
Red Bull need to handle this situation very carefully,with an eye on history.
At the 1982 San Marino GP at Imola,most teams didnt turn up due to the war between FISA/FOCA.The Ferraris of Villenueve and Pironi were leading the race and at a certain point the same team orders as today should have kicked in.
Villenueve had always argued against this,as he was a pure racer through and through.He believed that anyone who was given the privilige of driving an F1 car should drive it at the absolute maximum every corner of every lap,unless they had a healthy lead in a race.
Enzo Ferrari told him he understood and respected his point of view,but he owned the cars and if they had a commanding one two position in a race,he wanted them brought home without taking risks.
Well past the point of bringing the cars home,Pironi overtook Villenueve for the lead.Villenueve assumed that this was to put on a good show for the home crowd,as there wasnt much entertainment for them due to most of the teams not turning up.The lead swapped a few times but on the last lap when Villenueve tried to retake the lead,he assumed he would be waved through but Pironi blocked him every way he could.Pironi won the race and Vilenueve was livid.He vowed he would never speak to Pironi again as long as he lived,and he didnt.
When they went to Zolder a fortnight later,Villenueve was just as angry as when he had left Imola.He was in a very bad frame of mind when qualifying started and was killed in a horrific crash before it finished.
This incident has been borne in mind by teams and drivers in F1 since and they have tried to avoid it happening again.
Rene Arnoux puled a similar trick on his Ferrari team mate (Prost) a few years later.Ferrari paid him to sit at home watching the races on TV until his contract ran out,and therefore effectively finished his career.Enzo wasnt a man who would let anyone think they were bigger than him or his team.I very much doubt Christian Horner is cut from the same cloth somehow.
Ron Dennis was very worried it would happen again with Prost and Senna,and it nearly did.
I dont think Vettell has enough of a sense of history (or indeed right & wrong) to appreciate what he did today unfortunately.
In an ideal (sporting) world,the team should suspend him from the next GP imo,but hes far too petulant and theres  far too much money involved for that to happen these days I would imagine.
[/quote]he only done what he supposed to . and that was race . and not follow a rule dont overtake when told not to . that f1 is gone boring  :y ;D
ok for you bet you watched it live on sky  :D :D :D
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Re: F1
« Reply #16 on: 24 March 2013, 22:07:07 »

My expectation of the conversation in the Red Bull Hospitality after the race

"Geday mate here's a tinny. Next time you pull a stunt like that, MATE, I will shove the next one up your a*** and make sure you never win a race again. Get me  ;)"
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Re: F1
« Reply #17 on: 24 March 2013, 22:29:36 »

So when his ozzie mate switches the tables I think we should all cheer.
Or was it just a case off move over buddy, Suzy here I come........... :P
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Re: F1
« Reply #18 on: 24 March 2013, 22:30:22 »

Strange, No mention of Hamilton ???
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« Reply #19 on: 24 March 2013, 22:31:55 »

Was great to see him get on the podium.Making much better use of the Merc than old Scummy did. :y
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Re: F1
« Reply #20 on: 24 March 2013, 22:38:51 »

Was great to see him get on the podium.Making much better use of the Merc than old Scummy did. :y
i agree  :y hamilton done good i think ..he is a good driver and a fighter
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Re: F1
« Reply #21 on: 24 March 2013, 22:50:48 »

Was great to see him get on the podium.Making much better use of the Merc than old Scummy did. :y
i agree  :y hamilton done good i think ..he is a good driver and a fighter
and the fact that he drove into the mclaren pit box ;D
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Re: F1
« Reply #22 on: 24 March 2013, 22:55:50 »

Was great to see him get on the podium.Making much better use of the Merc than old Scummy did. :y
i agree  :y hamilton done good i think ..he is a good driver and a fighter
and the fact that he drove into the mclaren pit box ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: F1
« Reply #23 on: 24 March 2013, 22:56:50 »

Strange, No mention of Hamilton ???
who wants to  >:( >:(
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Re: F1
« Reply #24 on: 24 March 2013, 22:57:50 »

Was great to see him get on the podium.Making much better use of the Merc than old Scummy did. :y
i agree  :y hamilton done good i think ..he is a good driver and a fighter
and the fact that he drove into the mclaren pit box ;D

Yep,that was funny,as for Webber/Vettel I hope next time Mark is told to hold station behind Vettel he returns the favour ::)
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Re: F1
« Reply #25 on: 24 March 2013, 23:14:01 »

Strange, No mention of Hamilton ???
who wants to  >:( >:(

Nicole forgives him for diving in the wrong pit.

After all. Hes no James Hunt.
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« Reply #26 on: 24 March 2013, 23:24:46 »

Strange, No mention of Hamilton ???
who wants to  >:( >:(

Is it because he's black ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: F1
« Reply #27 on: 25 March 2013, 14:40:10 »

Strange, No mention of Hamilton ???
who wants to  >:( >:(

Is it because he's black ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
no always to cocky . a dangerous ;D ;D
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Re: F1
« Reply #28 on: 25 March 2013, 15:07:57 »

Strange, No mention of Hamilton ???
who wants to  >:( >:(

Is it because he's black ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
no always to cocky . a dangerous ;D ;D

You find the need to laugh when defining him as dangerous?  ::)
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Re: F1
« Reply #29 on: 25 March 2013, 17:08:40 »

Strange, No mention of Hamilton ???
who wants to  >:( >:(

Is it because he's black ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
no always to cocky . a dangerous ;D ;D

You find the need to laugh when defining him as dangerous?  ::)
always has been
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