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[78bex]

less than 3 years light use & it`s knackered
We took it to the Apple store & they want to replace the logic board... over £400 please

I suggested they fix it with 50% off for a goodwill gesture.
Looks of sheer amazment from the staff said it all.
only comment we got was "But if you had taken out the extended warranty etc etc"

Only now do I realise both processors are hard wired onto the L/board
What a crappy design that is.

[TheBoy]

less than 3 years light use & it`s knackered
We took it to the Apple store & they want to replace the logic board... over £400 please

I suggested they fix it with 50% off for a goodwill gesture.
Looks of sheer amazment from the staff said it all.
only comment we got was "But if you had taken out the extended warranty etc etc"

Only now do I realise both processors are hard wired onto the L/board
What a crappy design that is.

Fairly common on laptops, has been for a while now.

[78bex]

less than 3 years light use & it`s knackered
We took it to the Apple store & they want to replace the logic board... over £400 please

I suggested they fix it with 50% off for a goodwill gesture.
Looks of sheer amazment from the staff said it all.
only comment we got was "But if you had taken out the extended warranty etc etc"

Only now do I realise both processors are hard wired onto the L/board
What a crappy design that is.

Fairly common on laptops, has been for a while now.

Don`t all laugh at once, but I thought spending more in the first place; meant I got a superior product.
 I`ll get a good book from the library & fix it myself, perhaps not; I just remenbered they closed it down

[TheBoy]

Its Apple FFS

Oh dear....

[tunnie]

The latest ones have the ram soldered in too 

Design over function 

[TheBoy]

The latest ones have the ram soldered in too 

Design over function 

Soldering can increase reliability, which is (one reason - cost is another advantage) why notebook CPUs are soldered in.


But Apple pricing works in the same way as IBM PC pricing did 30 years ago. Utility Value, not cost + markup.

[PhilRich]

From a Consumer complaint letter to the Guardian newspaper 'Consumer champions'.



The European Directive 1999/44/EC says all EU countries have to ensure a retailer could be held liable for all "non-conformities" which manifest within two years from delivery.

However, because the Sale of Goods Act (SOGA) meets or exceeds most of the directive's requirements, this overrides the EU directive. The act requires three things: the goods must be as described; they must be of satisfactory quality, which is determined by description, price, durability, freedom from minor defects; and they must be fit for purpose.

Because manufacturers tend to give one year's warranty on goods, retailers will usually push you in their direction if the product breaks inside the first year.

However, SOGA provides cover for goods bought for up to six years – in England and Wales. This means if a TV fails after 13 months, you still have rights. Assuming the item has failed through no fault of yours, and it was "reasonable" to expect it to last longer – given its cost/quality – you should demand, under the Sale of Goods Act, that it be replaced or repaired by the retailed, not the manufacturer. Once the item is six months old, the onus is on you, the consumer, to show the item failed as a result of a manufacturing fault.

Try the Yellow Pages for an independent repairer. Most stores will reimburse the cost of an independent examination if the breakdown is the result of an inherent fault. In Scotland you get similar rights, but only up to five years.

[TheBoy]

The predicted life of a laptop is generally 3 years.

[78bex]

From a Consumer complaint letter to the Guardian newspaper 'Consumer champions'.



The European Directive 1999/44/EC says all EU countries have to ensure a retailer could be held liable for all "non-conformities" which manifest within two years from delivery.

However, because the Sale of Goods Act (SOGA) meets or exceeds most of the directive's requirements, this overrides the EU directive. The act requires three things: the goods must be as described; they must be of satisfactory quality, which is determined by description, price, durability, freedom from minor defects; and they must be fit for purpose.

Because manufacturers tend to give one year's warranty on goods, retailers will usually push you in their direction if the product breaks inside the first year.

However, SOGA provides cover for goods bought for up to six years – in England and Wales. This means if a TV fails after 13 months, you still have rights. Assuming the item has failed through no fault of yours, and it was "reasonable" to expect it to last longer – given its cost/quality – you should demand, under the Sale of Goods Act, that it be replaced or repaired by the retailed, not the manufacturer. Once the item is six months old, the onus is on you, the consumer, to show the item failed as a result of a manufacturing fault.

Try the Yellow Pages for an independent repairer. Most stores will reimburse the cost of an independent examination if the breakdown is the result of an inherent fault. In Scotland you get similar rights, but only up to five years.

Thanks for that,
On occasion I must admit swmbo sort of curls up with the mac balanced at odd angles on her lap with a jack terrier cuddled up in there somewhere. I reckon the rear vents have struggled on occasions to do their job. When she took it round to sissy`s place lord only knows what happens then. I`m feeling quite smug now cos my 5 year dell flap top is suddenly in demand again. 

[Vamps]

From a Consumer complaint letter to the Guardian newspaper 'Consumer champions'.



The European Directive 1999/44/EC says all EU countries have to ensure a retailer could be held liable for all "non-conformities" which manifest within two years from delivery.

However, because the Sale of Goods Act (SOGA) meets or exceeds most of the directive's requirements, this overrides the EU directive. The act requires three things: the goods must be as described; they must be of satisfactory quality, which is determined by description, price, durability, freedom from minor defects; and they must be fit for purpose.

Because manufacturers tend to give one year's warranty on goods, retailers will usually push you in their direction if the product breaks inside the first year.

However, SOGA provides cover for goods bought for up to six years – in England and Wales. This means if a TV fails after 13 months, you still have rights. Assuming the item has failed through no fault of yours, and it was "reasonable" to expect it to last longer – given its cost/quality – you should demand, under the Sale of Goods Act, that it be replaced or repaired by the retailed, not the manufacturer. Once the item is six months old, the onus is on you, the consumer, to show the item failed as a result of a manufacturing fault.

Try the Yellow Pages for an independent repairer. Most stores will reimburse the cost of an independent examination if the breakdown is the result of an inherent fault. In Scotland you get similar rights, but only up to five years.

Thanks for that,
On occasion I must admit swmbo sort of curls up with the mac balanced at odd angles on her lap with a jack terrier cuddled up in there somewhere. I reckon the rear vents have struggled on occasions to do their job. When she took it round to sissy`s place lord only knows what happens then. I`m feeling quite smug now cos my 5 year dell flap top is suddenly in demand again.

Like my old Acer revived after 15 months in the loft because my all singing all dancing new laptop is now in for repair.....

[78bex]

How hard can it be?

http://www.ifixit.com/Device/MacBook_Pro_13%22_Unibody_Mid_2009

[dbug]

How hard can it be?

http://www.ifixit.com/Device/MacBook_Pro_13%22_Unibody_Mid_2009

Never worked on Macs, but have stripped and fixed loads of laptops and notebooks.
Indeed how hard can it be - the only way you'll find out is to follow the ifixit instructions ?? ?? ?  

[Marks DTM Calib]

You pay for the name, not the hardware.

At least they are serviceable unlike the pads.!

[TheBoy]

You pay for the name, not the hardware.

At least they are serviceable unlike the pads.!

The iPhone 3GS is a little engineering marvel for servicing. 5th gen gayPod is a bit of a shit though.

[feeutfo]

Is Max worth a shout with these.?