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[martin42]

After sorting webby out this morning,drove to parents,pulled up and water was pissing out,water pump has gone,can some1 clarify if this is just an easy job,remove cambelt covers and then remove pump or is it cambelt driven and do cambelt at same time 

[RobG]

After sorting webby out this morning,drove to parents,pulled up and water was pissing out,water pump has gone,can some1 clarify if this is just an easy job,remove cambelt covers and then remove pump or is it cambelt driven and do cambelt at same time 

[martin42]

it had to be,ok thanks for the info 

[Webby the Bear]

so I take it it didn't nacker the actual running of the cambelt.... as in its still in place... just leaking?

as said mate ill pop over when you do anything and give you hand 

[martin42]

typical ford design,got to remove cambelt aswell to get to pump

[symes]

and if anything like focus you have to cut alternator belt off and when fitting new one comes with tool to aid fitting

[henryd]

typical ford design,got to remove cambelt aswell to get to pump

It's not only Ford, loads of other makes are the same,at least yours is easy to do

[Nick W]

typical ford design,got to remove cambelt as well to get to pump

It must have looked like such a good idea, driving the water pump off the cam belt. In practice though? When the pump bearings fail(as they do) and takes out the cambelt, along with the top end of the engine?

And no-one would be stupid enough to tension the cam belt by turning the water pump in its housing. Would they?

But this sort of optimistic design isn't new; just look at the shaft driven waterpump on a Dolomite slant 4. It works OK with very careful, selective assembly, but that was never going to happen with a BL built car. Instead, it's a common failure point that leads to all sorts of other issues.

[henryd]

typical ford design,got to remove cambelt as well to get to pump

It must have looked like such a good idea, driving the water pump off the cam belt. In practice though? When the pump bearings fail(as they do) and takes out the cambelt, along with the top end of the engine?

And no-one would be stupid enough to tension the cam belt by turning the water pump in its housing. Would they?

But this sort of optimistic design isn't new; just look at the shaft driven waterpump on a Dolomite slant 4. It works OK with very careful, selective assembly, but that was never going to happen with a BL built car. Instead, it's a common failure point that leads to all sorts of other issues.

I remember those bloody things

[omega3000]

Oh nooo 

[martin42]

had a look last night and it is aux belt driven,thats not a problem,its getting to the pump,and removing cambelt,so will get a cambelt kit sorted and hopefully have next weekend to do the jobs 

[henryd]

had a look last night and it is aux belt driven,thats not a problem,its getting to the pump,and removing cambelt,so will get a cambelt kit sorted and hopefully have next weekend to do the jobs 

Ah yours id the Zetec lump,I was thinking CVH

[martin42]

if it was the cvh it wouldnt be a problem,just the zetec lumps are a pain lol

[martin42]

oh well thats going to cost about £120 now,more expense i cant afford as normal lol 

[martin42]

all parts ordered ready for weekend,looks like im in for a dirty weekend