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[Elite Pete]

hat poxes me off is when the council have gone to the expence of a cycle path at the side of the road and you get tools on cycles 2 and 3 a breast holding traffic up. It has been known for me to slow right down when I have a car behind me with cycles on the roof or boot. I'm all for cycling and I know there are bad motorist and cyclist but if there's a cycle lane then use it

[cleggy]

I've just had my worst nightmare:-  A boy band on bikes surrounding my car singing 'You're The One To Blame' 

[Taxi_Driver]

When cycling to Brighton, there was a group ahead of me. Large pack of around 30 or so, riding in about 3 wide in some cases. Full on road bikes, so doing a fair pace, at least 30mph in a 40mph zone. The amount of cars tailgating dangerously, then blasting their horns was incredible!

Often on the cycle to work, you get cars giving you just mm's of space.

Fully support this new law, but as guffers says if the cyclist is irresponsible that needs to be addressed.

To me, that is irresponsible and im not surprised some cars were sounding their horns.....they should have been single file imo.

[tunnie]

hat poxes me off is when the council have gone to the expence of a cycle path at the side of the road and you get tools on cycles 2 and 3 a breast holding traffic up. It has been known for me to slow right down when I have a car behind me with cycles on the roof or boot. I'm all for cycling and I know there are bad motorist and cyclist but if there's a cycle lane then use it

The problem is, they are often shite!

Take the A4 one I use, its as smooth as a TB's driving style. You've got a lot of junctions joining in which you have to give way, lights to cross certain sections, it goes off in the wrong direction at times. The road is faster & smoother.

When cycling to Brighton, there was a group ahead of me. Large pack of around 30 or so, riding in about 3 wide in some cases. Full on road bikes, so doing a fair pace, at least 30mph in a 40mph zone. The amount of cars tailgating dangerously, then blasting their horns was incredible!

Often on the cycle to work, you get cars giving you just mm's of space.

Fully support this new law, but as guffers says if the cyclist is irresponsible that needs to be addressed.

To me, that is irresponsible and im not surprised some cars were sounding their horns.....they should have been single file imo.

Nothing wrong with it in my view, it was a special event, how is it different from a tractor going along? (which would have been going slower!)

[Lizzie_Zoom]

So the pressures of daily existence coupled with poor driving skills means that daily deaths from crashes (not accidents) occur.

Nice to see someone making that differentiation. Collisions and crashes always have a cause, they are not accidents.

Indeed, and that is why the police now call them RTC - Road Traffic Collisions

[Elite Pete]

hat poxes me off is when the council have gone to the expence of a cycle path at the side of the road and you get tools on cycles 2 and 3 a breast holding traffic up. It has been known for me to slow right down when I have a car behind me with cycles on the roof or boot. I'm all for cycling and I know there are bad motorist and cyclist but if there's a cycle lane then use it

The problem is, they are often shite!

Take the A4 one I use, its as smooth as a TB's driving style. You've got a lot of junctions joining in which you have to give way, lights to cross certain sections, it goes off in the wrong direction at times. The road is faster & smoother.

When cycling to Brighton, there was a group ahead of me. Large pack of around 30 or so, riding in about 3 wide in some cases. Full on road bikes, so doing a fair pace, at least 30mph in a 40mph zone. The amount of cars tailgating dangerously, then blasting their horns was incredible!

Often on the cycle to work, you get cars giving you just mm's of space.

Fully support this new law, but as guffers says if the cyclist is irresponsible that needs to be addressed.

To me, that is irresponsible and im not surprised some cars were sounding their horns.....they should have been single file imo.

Nothing wrong with it in my view, it was a special event, how is it different from a tractor going along? (which would have been going slower!)

Ah right, so the council spend millions on a cycle path but you'd rather not use it and slow the cars down instead and then moan if they get too close. Maybe the cars should use the cycle lane because it's faster due to all the cyclists using the road

[Elite Pete]

hat poxes me off is when the council have gone to the expence of a cycle path at the side of the road and you get tools on cycles 2 and 3 a breast holding traffic up. It has been known for me to slow right down when I have a car behind me with cycles on the roof or boot. I'm all for cycling and I know there are bad motorist and cyclist but if there's a cycle lane then use it

The problem is, they are often shite!

Take the A4 one I use, its as smooth as a TB's driving style. You've got a lot of junctions joining in which you have to give way, lights to cross certain sections, it goes off in the wrong direction at times. The road is faster & smoother.

When cycling to Brighton, there was a group ahead of me. Large pack of around 30 or so, riding in about 3 wide in some cases. Full on road bikes, so doing a fair pace, at least 30mph in a 40mph zone. The amount of cars tailgating dangerously, then blasting their horns was incredible!

Often on the cycle to work, you get cars giving you just mm's of space.

Fully support this new law, but as guffers says if the cyclist is irresponsible that needs to be addressed.

To me, that is irresponsible and im not surprised some cars were sounding their horns.....they should have been single file imo.

Nothing wrong with it in my view, it was a special event, how is it different from a tractor going along? (which would have been going slower!)

I've never seen tractors 3 a breast 

[Taxi_Driver]

hat poxes me off is when the council have gone to the expence of a cycle path at the side of the road and you get tools on cycles 2 and 3 a breast holding traffic up. It has been known for me to slow right down when I have a car behind me with cycles on the roof or boot. I'm all for cycling and I know there are bad motorist and cyclist but if there's a cycle lane then use it

The problem is, they are often shite!

Take the A4 one I use, its as smooth as a TB's driving style. You've got a lot of junctions joining in which you have to give way, lights to cross certain sections, it goes off in the wrong direction at times. The road is faster & smoother.

When cycling to Brighton, there was a group ahead of me. Large pack of around 30 or so, riding in about 3 wide in some cases. Full on road bikes, so doing a fair pace, at least 30mph in a 40mph zone. The amount of cars tailgating dangerously, then blasting their horns was incredible!

Often on the cycle to work, you get cars giving you just mm's of space.

Fully support this new law, but as guffers says if the cyclist is irresponsible that needs to be addressed.

To me, that is irresponsible and im not surprised some cars were sounding their horns.....they should have been single file imo.

Nothing wrong with it in my view, it was a special event, how is it different from a tractor going along? (which would have been going slower!)

A tractor has no control on how wide it is. Single file cycling gives the motorist more chance of over taking......cycling 3 wide or even 2 wide makes it a whole lot harder to overtake......and is just selfish behaviour imo.....what difference does it make to the cyclist if he's following another??

It may have been an event......but you still have to be considerate to other road users....yes??

[Sir Tigger KC]

The Highway Code should apply equally to all road users! 

[tunnie]

hat poxes me off is when the council have gone to the expence of a cycle path at the side of the road and you get tools on cycles 2 and 3 a breast holding traffic up. It has been known for me to slow right down when I have a car behind me with cycles on the roof or boot. I'm all for cycling and I know there are bad motorist and cyclist but if there's a cycle lane then use it

The problem is, they are often shite!

Take the A4 one I use, its as smooth as a TB's driving style. You've got a lot of junctions joining in which you have to give way, lights to cross certain sections, it goes off in the wrong direction at times. The road is faster & smoother.

When cycling to Brighton, there was a group ahead of me. Large pack of around 30 or so, riding in about 3 wide in some cases. Full on road bikes, so doing a fair pace, at least 30mph in a 40mph zone. The amount of cars tailgating dangerously, then blasting their horns was incredible!

Often on the cycle to work, you get cars giving you just mm's of space.

Fully support this new law, but as guffers says if the cyclist is irresponsible that needs to be addressed.

To me, that is irresponsible and im not surprised some cars were sounding their horns.....they should have been single file imo.

Nothing wrong with it in my view, it was a special event, how is it different from a tractor going along? (which would have been going slower!)

Ah right, so the council spend millions on a cycle path but you'd rather not use it and slow the cars down instead and then moan if they get too close. Maybe the cars should use the cycle lane because it's faster due to all the cyclists using the road

They can only have spent about 50p on the A4 one, its just terrible. Often its just a coat of paint 

I pay £200 odd for the 2.2's road tax, £200 odd for the 3.2's road tax & about £75 for the motorbike road tax. I think I deserve to use road for my cycle too 

[tunnie]

hat poxes me off is when the council have gone to the expence of a cycle path at the side of the road and you get tools on cycles 2 and 3 a breast holding traffic up. It has been known for me to slow right down when I have a car behind me with cycles on the roof or boot. I'm all for cycling and I know there are bad motorist and cyclist but if there's a cycle lane then use it

The problem is, they are often shite!

Take the A4 one I use, its as smooth as a TB's driving style. You've got a lot of junctions joining in which you have to give way, lights to cross certain sections, it goes off in the wrong direction at times. The road is faster & smoother.

When cycling to Brighton, there was a group ahead of me. Large pack of around 30 or so, riding in about 3 wide in some cases. Full on road bikes, so doing a fair pace, at least 30mph in a 40mph zone. The amount of cars tailgating dangerously, then blasting their horns was incredible!

Often on the cycle to work, you get cars giving you just mm's of space.

Fully support this new law, but as guffers says if the cyclist is irresponsible that needs to be addressed.

To me, that is irresponsible and im not surprised some cars were sounding their horns.....they should have been single file imo.

Nothing wrong with it in my view, it was a special event, how is it different from a tractor going along? (which would have been going slower!)

A tractor has no control on how wide it is. Single file cycling gives the motorist more chance of over taking......cycling 3 wide or even 2 wide makes it a whole lot harder to overtake......and is just selfish behaviour imo.....what difference does it make to the cyclist if he's following another??

It may have been an event......but you still have to be considerate to other road users....yes??

2 wide is within highway code 

Also given they were quite close to the speed limit, I don't see the problem. It forces cars to go around you, rather than letting them blast past with mm's to spare, which happened a lot.

There were 300 of us, so even if you over-took a few, had quite a few more bikes in front of you.

[cleggy]

hat poxes me off is when the council have gone to the expence of a cycle path at the side of the road and you get tools on cycles 2 and 3 a breast holding traffic up. It has been known for me to slow right down when I have a car behind me with cycles on the roof or boot. I'm all for cycling and I know there are bad motorist and cyclist but if there's a cycle lane then use it

The problem is, they are often shite!

Take the A4 one I use, its as smooth as a TB's driving style. You've got a lot of junctions joining in which you have to give way, lights to cross certain sections, it goes off in the wrong direction at times. The road is faster & smoother.

When cycling to Brighton, there was a group ahead of me. Large pack of around 30 or so, riding in about 3 wide in some cases. Full on road bikes, so doing a fair pace, at least 30mph in a 40mph zone. The amount of cars tailgating dangerously, then blasting their horns was incredible!

Often on the cycle to work, you get cars giving you just mm's of space.

Fully support this new law, but as guffers says if the cyclist is irresponsible that needs to be addressed.

To me, that is irresponsible and im not surprised some cars were sounding their horns.....they should have been single file imo.

Nothing wrong with it in my view, it was a special event, how is it different from a tractor going along? (which would have been going slower!)

Ah right, so the council spend millions on a cycle path but you'd rather not use it and slow the cars down instead and then moan if they get too close. Maybe the cars should use the cycle lane because it's faster due to all the cyclists using the road

They can only have spent about 50p on the A4 one, its just terrible. Often its just a coat of paint 

I pay £200 odd for the 2.2's road tax, £200 odd for the 3.2's road tax & about £75 for the bikes road tax. I think I deserve to use road for my bike too 

ER! not in my opinion, and how about insurance as well you use the road just like the rest of us

If your event was special I presume you had motorcyle escort, police accompanyment, road signs indicating the event was in progress etc or was it just a club day out and not an official road race. The reason I ask is that when the Tour of Britain passed the end of out crescent all the above were in place.

[tunnie]

Tour of Britian is a tad different 

But we had route signs, road sprayed with arrows at all junctions, St Johns Ambulance, Crew cars, support cars. So decent sized event 

Certain diesel/hybrid cars don't pay any road tax!

Event was fully insured too by British Cycling.

Law works perfectly well in Euroland 

[cleggy]

Tour of Britian is a tad different 

But we had route signs, road sprayed with arrows at all junctions, St Johns Ambulance, Crew cars, support cars. So decent sized event 

Certain diesel/hybrid cars don't pay any road tax!

Event was fully insured too by British Cycling.

Law works perfectly well in Euroland 

But they are insured as should invalid cars and cycles.

I only wanted to say when starting this thread is that it is bloody stupid to blame the motorist for a collision with a cyclist when it is clearly the cyclists fault. If you run into the back of another car then it is your fault, how the hell if a cyclist runs into the rear of your car can it be your fault.

Cyclists are idiots, car drivers are idiots but each must respect the Highway Code

As for Euroland.... FREAK OUT

[tunnie]

Tour of Britian is a tad different 

But we had route signs, road sprayed with arrows at all junctions, St Johns Ambulance, Crew cars, support cars. So decent sized event 

Certain diesel/hybrid cars don't pay any road tax!

Event was fully insured too by British Cycling.

Law works perfectly well in Euroland 

But they are insured as should invalid cars and cycles.

I only wanted to say when starting this thread is that it is bloody stupid to blame the motorist for a collision with a cyclist when it is clearly the cyclists fault. If you run into the back of another car then it is your fault, how the hell if a cyclist runs into the rear of your car can it be your fault.

Cyclists are idiots, car drivers are idiots but each must respect the Highway Code

As for Euroland.... FREAK OUT

You are turning left, you overtake a cycle. The cycle is going faster than you think, you turn left into a side road. Bam!

Guy on the bike runs into the back of you. Seen it before!  - Also happened to me, been overtaken then car almost straight away turns across me. 

Clearly, as said earlier rules for dangerous cyclists need to be improved as well.

But as a car driver, if you are behind a cyclist and know if you hit him its your fault, you would give them a lot more room when passing, be aware of pulling out of junctions ect, as thats most common cause of serious accidents. Car at T junction, pulls out, not seeing the cyclist, happened to friend of mine TWICE in as many months. Second time he ended up going over the roof of the car!