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[Rog]

It's ok. Flying is safe . . . .

This was NOT an attack by anyone, it just happened. Have a good flight     

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c32_1367332518

[henryd]

Looked like it stalled for some reason after take off,pilot didn't have enough height to recover

[Kevin Wood]

Yep, classic "low and slow" accident, as far as I can see.

[Gaffers]

cargo shifted during take-off.  Crew had no chance

[aaronjb]

cargo shifted during take-off.  Crew had no chance

Indeed - and all seven died on impact..

[Kevin Wood]

cargo shifted during take-off.  Crew had no chance

Yes, that would do it. I guess the CofG shifted aft to the point where the elevator lost authority. 

[cleggy]

Cem will have a theory 

Sorry for those who lost their lives

[Entwood]

RIP to the poor guys ... a couple of minutes of absolute terror no doubt..

Many theory's abound in the aviation forums .. but a cargo shift/stall seems to be the favourite ..

When Mr Bernoulli leaves the room Mr Newton takes over with a vengeance ..

[Varche]

Horrific.

[05omegav6]

Some of those cargo carriers leave alot to be desdired. Seen a fair few close calls at Gatwick due to poor loading/overloading

Just because the freight physically fits the space doesn't mean it should be loaded...

[tigers_gonads]

Shite 

[ozzycat]

dave my son in law just phoned my daughter after the latest ied killed 3 of our lads out there angela was paniking because the expected phone call last night didnt happen somthing called minimize so big sigh of relief there but bad for the familiys of the 3 lads thay didnt make it

[Gaffers]

yes when Op MINIMISE is on there is no phone or internet access for anyone, only military phones back to UK military phones.  That is until the Next of Kin have all been informed.  When there is multiple casualties it can take a while, that and some families are separated which takes times to get everyone.  It's a sad reality but the MOD gets kicked in the nuts when people find out via friends/email/facebook/etc.

[ozzycat]

yes when Op MINIMISE is on there is no phone or internet access for anyone, only military phones back to UK military phones.  That is until the Next of Kin have all been informed.  When there is multiple casualties it can take a while, that and some families are separated which takes times to get everyone.  It's a sad reality but the MOD gets kicked in the nuts when people find out via friends/email/facebook/etc.

thanks for explaining that for me guffer angela was in a panic this morning and last night and didnt explain wich is to be expected   still a bad day for all  cheers mate

[Gaffers]

No worries.  It normally lasts about 8 hours, sometimes it only lasts an hour, but last year it was once on for 2 days.  Problem is we in the UK dont know anything (and cannot)