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Re: Are you flying somewhere soon ?
« Reply #15 on: 01 May 2013, 18:14:32 »

Only ever flew once , and we had a great flight out but the fight back was at night ..didnt like it one bit flying over birmingham twice looking at all the people on the ground walking the streets  :( Sad for those that died in that  :(
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Re: Are you flying somewhere soon ?
« Reply #16 on: 01 May 2013, 19:15:11 »

That was a 'First Choice' piece of advertising below the video, offering cheap flights... ::)
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« Reply #17 on: 01 May 2013, 20:58:10 »

Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(

not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)
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« Reply #18 on: 01 May 2013, 21:01:44 »

had flight many times and I still have fear like the first time..  :-\
 
if I had a parachute and there were enough doors may be my fear will decrease a bit.. :-X 
 
 
but for that case even chute wont save anyone..
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Re: Are you flying somewhere soon ?
« Reply #19 on: 01 May 2013, 22:17:35 »

Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(

not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)

You mean?  no.............surely, you can't be saying it WASN'T aliens?  ::)
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Re: Are you flying somewhere soon ?
« Reply #20 on: 02 May 2013, 00:35:43 »

Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(

not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)

Nope. The pilot would have been concentrating on speed and angle of attack to the exclusion of almost everything else that early on in the climb. For him to let them go so far out of control would be inconcievable. You have classic signs of an incipient spin there. A wing drops, gets picked up, only for the other wing to drop, with a load of yaw. The aircraft looked very nose-up right from the start of the video. I suspect that flight was doomed from the moment it passed V1, and, having taken to the air, nothing anyone could have done would have saved it.. :'(
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Re: Are you flying somewhere soon ?
« Reply #21 on: 02 May 2013, 02:10:01 »

Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(

not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)

Nope. The pilot would have been concentrating on speed and angle of attack to the exclusion of almost everything else that early on in the climb. For him to let them go so far out of control would be inconcievable. You have classic signs of an incipient spin there. A wing drops, gets picked up, only for the other wing to drop, with a load of yaw. The aircraft looked very nose-up right from the start of the video. I suspect that flight was doomed from the moment it passed V1, and, having taken to the air, nothing anyone could have done would have saved it.. :'(

A bit like the Paris Concorde :-\ by the time the problem became apparent it was too late to abort the takeoff without crashing. Screwed either way :'(
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Re: Are you flying somewhere soon ?
« Reply #22 on: 02 May 2013, 04:30:56 »

Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(

not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)

Nope. The pilot would have been concentrating on speed and angle of attack to the exclusion of almost everything else that early on in the climb. For him to let them go so far out of control would be inconcievable. You have classic signs of an incipient spin there. A wing drops, gets picked up, only for the other wing to drop, with a load of yaw. The aircraft looked very nose-up right from the start of the video. I suspect that flight was doomed from the moment it passed V1, and, having taken to the air, nothing anyone could have done would have saved it.. :'(
Nope, much simpler than that. The crash occurred "due to low altitude after takeoff" (according to an army spokesperson).  Zero altitude in fact, guess that's why he's in the army, not the air force ;)
http://www.businessinsider.com/bagram-airport-crash-video-surfaces-2013-4
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« Reply #23 on: 02 May 2013, 21:34:09 »

Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(

not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)

Nope. The pilot would have been concentrating on speed and angle of attack to the exclusion of almost everything else that early on in the climb. For him to let them go so far out of control would be inconcievable. You have classic signs of an incipient spin there. A wing drops, gets picked up, only for the other wing to drop, with a load of yaw. The aircraft looked very nose-up right from the start of the video. I suspect that flight was doomed from the moment it passed V1, and, having taken to the air, nothing anyone could have done would have saved it.. :'(

this also took my attention.. and thats the begining of disaster.. if you put your nose too much up without enough speed , you drop lke a stone .. because your wings will not have enough angle to carry the plane..and thats obviously a pilot mistake ;)
 
hence caused by CIA ;D
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Re: Are you flying somewhere soon ?
« Reply #24 on: 02 May 2013, 22:04:04 »

I thought that when planes take off from places like that, they climb as steeply as possible to gain altitude quickly to avoid attack from small arms and RPG's etc.... ?  :-\
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« Reply #25 on: 02 May 2013, 22:06:05 »

I thought that when planes take off from places like that, they climb as steeply as possible to gain altitude quickly to avoid attack from small arms and RPG's etc.... ?  :-\

yes.. but with enough speed.. its the only thing that keeps you on the air..
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Re: Are you flying somewhere soon ?
« Reply #26 on: 02 May 2013, 22:16:50 »

what ever the reason its happend we cant tuen the clock back weve got to think of there familiys
nothing will bring them back such a tragic loss of life :'( :'( :'(
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Re: Are you flying somewhere soon ?
« Reply #27 on: 03 May 2013, 01:00:30 »

There will be an investigation, which will most likely conclude that a sudden artificial shift of the CoG towards the tail caused an unrecoverable stall, Crew not at fault.

Won't bring them back though :'(
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