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[Kevin Wood]

Trap points in this case

So they did there job then, by preventing it joining the main line, a bit drastic though?.......

How else do you stop a train?

[Andy B]

Trap points in this case

So they did there job then, by preventing it joining the main line, a bit drastic though?.......

How else do you stop a train?

Emergency cord! 

[05omegav6]

Trap points in this case

So they did their job then, by preventing it joining the main line, a bit drastic though?.......

Very effective, presumably that would have been a touch more dramatic had the train been going more quickly

Are such systems still in use, or do we rely solely on electrickery and computers

Might such points have prevented the Ladbrook Grove crash from happening 


Oh, and that'll be a £150 fine for improper use Mr P

[Marks DTM Calib]

Trap points are still used as are catch points as they protect against un-manned runaways as well as 'errors'.

Ladbrook Grove was somewhat different although some changes to the points arrangement could have prevented it (e.g.flank protection)

I can confirm that the Loco has sustained some heavy damage which is more extensive and much more costly than the brake rigging and coupling.

[05omegav6]

Thanks for that Used the example as I knew someone on the InterCity involved

Is it beyond repair? Twisted chassis or summat

On balance probably cheaper than passenger fatalities, which presumably is why those points are fitted...

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Trap points are still used as are catch points as they protect against un-manned runaways as well as 'errors'.

Ladbrook Grove was somewhat different although some changes to the points arrangement could have prevented it (e.g.flank protection)

I can confirm that the Loco has sustained some heavy damage which is more extensive and much more costly than the brake rigging and coupling.

That does not surprise me.  They are heavy machines and do significant damage when bounced over onto the sleepers via the track chairs.  The track of course would also be damaged. The springs, roller bearings, wheel flanges, brake rigging would all suffer, and there is always a risk of cracking the frames. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

I am surprised that they used concrete sleepers following a trap point.

No roller bearings on this one Lizzie, I am sure I will get the low down at the weekend from the GCR crews.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I am surprised that they used concrete sleepers following a trap point.

No roller bearings on this one Lizzie, I am sure I will get the low down at the weekend from the GCR crews.

Ah, thanks Mark .  Yes these were introduced prior to BR days, and it was the later Standard classes on which they were introduced, so plain white metalled bearings on these Class 2's. Even more damage possible then.

[symes]

I am surprised that they used concrete sleepers following a trap point.

No roller bearings on this one Lizzie, I am sure I will get the low down at the weekend from the GCR crews.

Ah, thanks Mark .  Yes these were introduced prior to BR days, and it was the later Standard classes on which they were introduced, so plain white metalled bearings on these Class 2's. Even more damage possible then.

either way the loco is going to cost a fair bit to fix what a shame that was-hope it will return soon-too few around now-those things really have a soul dont they

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Any news yet on the damage done, if any, to 46521 Mark?

[paul.lovejoy]

Trap points in this case

So they did there job then, by preventing it joining the main line, a bit drastic though?.......

How else do you stop a train?

handbrake

[Marks DTM Calib]

Any news yet on the damage done, if any, to 46521 Mark?

Quite a bit more than initially thought.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Any news yet on the damage done, if any, to 46521 Mark?

Quite a bit more than initially thought.

Thanks Mark

Any details to be had?