Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Please check the Forum Guidelines at the top of the Newbie section

Pages: 1 [2] 3 4  All   Go Down

Author Topic: poor power 2.5 td  (Read 7478 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

MV6Danny

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Swindon, Wiltshire
  • Posts: 491
  • Driving at the speed of light
    • 99 irmscher mv6 3l Manual
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #15 on: 05 May 2013, 14:18:09 »


Should there be a vacume pipe or something connected next to the small pipe that is connected?
Logged
Back in the MV6 again now

Shackeng

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Ramsbury
  • Posts: 7763
    • 3.2 Elite 2.0 TitX Mondeo
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #16 on: 05 May 2013, 19:25:12 »

Yep, a vacuum pipe goes down the centre of the block and disappears into the bulkhead via the Pollen filter/drain housing on the nearside. I suspect it is a climate control connection, but someone will be along shortly to qualify that. :y
Logged

Seth

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • South Wales Valleys
  • Posts: 6646
  • If there's a 'system' - play it ... !
    • '99 2.5TD GLS Estate
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #17 on: 05 May 2013, 21:15:19 »


Should there be a vacume pipe or something connected next to the small pipe that is connected?

Yes indeed ... a small bore rubber tube that should connect to the boost sensor! ;D

Try searching under/around the forward inlet manifold support bracket for it.
Will see if I can find a photie ... :P
Logged
Gettin' seriously hacked-off by those who ignore the wisdom of proven experience ... and Forum guidelines.

MV6Danny

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Swindon, Wiltshire
  • Posts: 491
  • Driving at the speed of light
    • 99 irmscher mv6 3l Manual
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #18 on: 05 May 2013, 21:38:20 »

Oh right. I have a pipe connected to the boost sensor which is located next to the power steering reservoir. That pipe is connected to the underside of the inlet manifold. I thought this main pipe that connects to the brake servo is connected to a vacume motor on the other end. I am new to diesels and have no idea.
Just to make things worse I just went to the shop and got just round the corner from my house on the way back and the car just cut out. Wont start now. I dont know if it has run out of fuel but the light has only just come on and the gauge is not right on the bottom. If it is out of fuel do I need to bleed it before it will start?
Logged
Back in the MV6 again now

Shackeng

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Ramsbury
  • Posts: 7763
    • 3.2 Elite 2.0 TitX Mondeo
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #19 on: 05 May 2013, 22:56:48 »


Should there be a vacume pipe or something connected next to the small pipe that is connected?

Yes indeed ... a small bore rubber tube that should connect to the boost sensor! ;D

Try searching under/around the forward inlet manifold support bracket for it.
Will see if I can find a photie ... :P

Mine goes through the bulkhead Seth, as above. :y
Logged

MV6Danny

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Swindon, Wiltshire
  • Posts: 491
  • Driving at the speed of light
    • 99 irmscher mv6 3l Manual
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #20 on: 05 May 2013, 23:15:17 »

The pipe that is connected goes to the back of the engine then through the bulk head on the passenger side. Is there supposed to be something else connected to the blue t aswell as the pipe going through the bulkhead?
Logged
Back in the MV6 again now

Seth

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • South Wales Valleys
  • Posts: 6646
  • If there's a 'system' - play it ... !
    • '99 2.5TD GLS Estate
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #21 on: 06 May 2013, 00:18:36 »

Oh right. I have a pipe connected to the boost sensor which is located next to the power steering reservoir. That pipe is connected to the underside of the inlet manifold. I thought this main pipe that connects to the brake servo is connected to a vacume motor on the other end. I am new to diesels and have no idea.

^^^  Correct  ^^^

BUT ... there's also a second pipe that connects the sensor to that 'open' connection in da photie! ;)
Logged
Gettin' seriously hacked-off by those who ignore the wisdom of proven experience ... and Forum guidelines.

Seth

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • South Wales Valleys
  • Posts: 6646
  • If there's a 'system' - play it ... !
    • '99 2.5TD GLS Estate
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #22 on: 06 May 2013, 00:23:59 »


Mine goes through the bulkhead Seth, as above. :y

Aye, we knows that ... but da 'missing' pipe doesn't ... Ya needs te read ma reply, man ... ::)
« Last Edit: 06 May 2013, 00:25:34 by Seth »
Logged
Gettin' seriously hacked-off by those who ignore the wisdom of proven experience ... and Forum guidelines.

MV6Danny

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Swindon, Wiltshire
  • Posts: 491
  • Driving at the speed of light
    • 99 irmscher mv6 3l Manual
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #23 on: 06 May 2013, 01:14:03 »


Mine goes through the bulkhead Seth, as above. :y

Aye, we knows that ... but da 'missing' pipe doesn't ... Ya needs te read ma reply, man ... ::)
I did look for a loose pipe but couldnt see one. If its missing where is it supposed to connect to? If I knew that then I could try tracing it from the other end. Will take a pic tomorrow of some other parts and post them to see if I am looking in the right place for the boost sensor.
Logged
Back in the MV6 again now

Shackeng

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Ramsbury
  • Posts: 7763
    • 3.2 Elite 2.0 TitX Mondeo
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #24 on: 06 May 2013, 08:32:34 »

Oh right. I have a pipe connected to the boost sensor which is located next to the power steering reservoir. That pipe is connected to the underside of the inlet manifold. I thought this main pipe that connects to the brake servo is connected to a vacume motor on the other end. I am new to diesels and have no idea.

^^^  Correct  ^^^

BUT ... there's also a second pipe that connects the sensor to that 'open' connection in da photie! ;)
Strange, as my second pipe, as well as the other already connected, goes through the bulkhead????? :o :o :o
Logged

MV6Danny

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Swindon, Wiltshire
  • Posts: 491
  • Driving at the speed of light
    • 99 irmscher mv6 3l Manual
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #25 on: 06 May 2013, 11:52:56 »

Oh right. I have a pipe connected to the boost sensor which is located next to the power steering reservoir. That pipe is connected to the underside of the inlet manifold. I thought this main pipe that connects to the brake servo is connected to a vacume motor on the other end. I am new to diesels and have no idea.

^^^  Correct  ^^^
Do you have climate control on yours as I dont have it on mine. Will get and take some pics in a min and get them on here

BUT ... there's also a second pipe that connects the sensor to that 'open' connection in da photie! ;)
Strange, as my second pipe, as well as the other already connected, goes through the bulkhead????? :o :o :o
Logged
Back in the MV6 again now

MV6Danny

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Swindon, Wiltshire
  • Posts: 491
  • Driving at the speed of light
    • 99 irmscher mv6 3l Manual
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #26 on: 06 May 2013, 13:10:22 »

Found the pipe. Reconnected it and it doesnt make any difference. I will be servicing it next weekend. Hopefully that might make it better.
Logged
Back in the MV6 again now

hoofing it

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 1556
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #27 on: 07 May 2013, 08:25:05 »

Hi guys i am used to driving a 3.0 v6 but just bought a 2.5td. Now i know its not going to be anywhere near as fast but the diesel doesnt seem to have any power until about 2500 revs. :'(  is this normal? i know there is the problem of turbo lag but it seems rather extreme. Also when i take my foot off the accelerator pedal the eml flashes on the off any ideas what that could be or do i need to get the fault codes read ??? Is there anything i can do to try and give it a bit more power in the low revs? dont really want to be driving around at over 2500 rpm all the time.  :y
The eml light flashing is a bit worrying this could be the injector pump failing if it is the next thing that will start happening is it will stall when your slowing down at a junction or traffic lights.
As for the vac pipe the end that goes to the bulkhead is a open to atmoshpere. It should have a small filter on the end of it if not fit one.I used a small inline fuel filter.
Last bit of advice try and keep the fuel tank above 1/4 :y
Do a paperclip test and post results
Logged

MV6Danny

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Swindon, Wiltshire
  • Posts: 491
  • Driving at the speed of light
    • 99 irmscher mv6 3l Manual
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #28 on: 08 May 2013, 02:42:57 »

Hi guys i am used to driving a 3.0 v6 but just bought a 2.5td. Now i know its not going to be anywhere near as fast but the diesel doesnt seem to have any power until about 2500 revs. :'(  is this normal? i know there is the problem of turbo lag but it seems rather extreme. Also when i take my foot off the accelerator pedal the eml flashes on the off any ideas what that could be or do i need to get the fault codes read ??? Is there anything i can do to try and give it a bit more power in the low revs? dont really want to be driving around at over 2500 rpm all the time.  :y
The eml light flashing is a bit worrying this could be the injector pump failing if it is the next thing that will start happening is it will stall when your slowing down at a junction or traffic lights.
As for the vac pipe the end that goes to the bulkhead is a open to atmoshpere. It should have a small filter on the end of it if not fit one.I used a small inline fuel filter.
Last bit of advice try and keep the fuel tank above 1/4 :y
Do a paperclip test and post results

Thanks. That sounds expensive if it the injector pump. I will try and do a paperclip test in the morning when I get up failing that I will ask my mate at work to bring his code reader in. I will post results when known.
Logged
Back in the MV6 again now

MV6Danny

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Swindon, Wiltshire
  • Posts: 491
  • Driving at the speed of light
    • 99 irmscher mv6 3l Manual
    • View Profile
Re: poor power 2.5 td
« Reply #29 on: 08 May 2013, 13:47:12 »

Done paperclip test. Fault codes are:
31   no engine rpm
64 fuel quantity control out of range
92 cruise control device circuit open or high voltage
96 egr valve out of range

Well cruise control stalk not fitted so does this mean cruise control is enabled?
As for 64 and 96 what do they mean? Replace egr valve for 96? How do I sort out code 64?

Thanks hope someone can advise. :y
Logged
Back in the MV6 again now
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.014 seconds with 17 queries.