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[F1 9LFG]

Hi all

Got a question to ask, I have been issued a kangoo van (2013 plate) but the darn thing has a limiter on it 62mph!
''to save the planet'' the company tells me, more like to save fuel.

I'd be ok if it were set to 70mph but why 62mph I don't know, the law states I can drive at 70 on a Motorway in my van...?

Anyway, the company won't budge on upping the limit so I'm stuck with it, or am I?

If I was to up the tyre size slightly would my top end speed also increase?

Other ranges of the new kangoos have 16'' wheels with bigger tyres than my currect 15'' rims and tyres. The speedo would still read 62mph but I'd actually be going a tad more?

I'd love to be able to hit 65mph, just enough to overtake HGVs on the motorways!

I have no idea how the limiter works but I assume its off a speed/ABS sensor??

(Engine RPM in 5th gear at 62mph 2.5k - so plently of rpm left)

Any help welcomed!

Thanks

Rob

[05omegav6]

Limiter is probably programed in the ECU from the factory. You should be doing 6mph more than any HGV, so using the 10% principle, you should be able to overtake them safely.

Might be worth a reread of the highway code. If the laden weight of your Kangoo is over 1999kgs, then it isn't considered to be a car derived van, this restricts you to 60 on dual carriageways and 50 on single carriageways

[F1 9LFG]

Limiter is probably programed in the ECU from the factory. You should be doing 6mph more than any HGV, so using the 10% principle, you should be able to overtake them safely.

Might be worth a reread of the highway code. If the laden weight of your Kangoo is over 1999kgs, then it isn't considered to be a car derived van, this restricts you to 60 on dual carriageways and 50 on single carriageways

Hi Al,

There's no way I'm going more than 1 mph faster than a HGV, It can take me 1/2 mile to overtank a tanker!

curb gross weight is 1400-1500 and is classed as car-derived van, looked into it and contacted my local traffic police who confirmed it.

 

[05omegav6]

Then the limiter has been set wrong. Indicated speed and actual speed are usually two very different things

What is the load capacity of the van? If it's 500kgs or more, then it's not a car derived van.

[05omegav6]

What is the load capacity of the van? If it's 500kgs or more, then it's not a car derived van.

I take that back. Just looked at Renaults website

It's no wonder the van is limited. Any faster and it would blow away. Curb weights start at just over a ton

I wouldn't want to crash one thats for sure.

[Elite Pete]

Never mind Rob, i've just started a new job and been given a new VW van which will easily reach 100mph on a private road of course

[F1 9LFG]

Yes it really doesn't weigh much at all!

well the sticker on the back states '60mph' and on my GPS it reads 62-64mph max.

having spoke to others in the company with the same van they all report the same!

do you think the bigger wheel/tyre idea would work?

Cheers

[F1 9LFG]

Never mind Rob, i've just started a new job and been given a new VW van which will easily reach 100mph on a private road of course

Ahh Pete that's great news, I'm very pleased for you......

[martin42]

van limiters dont save fuel,its just to reduce speed,old vivaro was limited to 68mph,new transit limited to 70mph and that does 26mpg so figure that out,just think of it this way you wont get a speeding ticket on national speed limit roads

[jonathanh]

look on the bright side, you can always arrive late for a job and blame the limiter on the van.  If the boss has a go, then its constructive dismissal time etc

[Marks DTM Calib]

It will save fuel.....basic physics

[Kevin Wood]

Also bear in mind that the company may well have got discounts on their insurance by limiting their vans. If you tamper with it, you could find yourself uninsured in the event of an accident.

[F1 9LFG]

Oh it is saving fuel, I'm getting about 53mpg on the M25 and that's when I average 56mph, but I only want to do a few mph more, I'd settle for being limited to 68 even. Not hoping to be sat at 90 all day.

Surely if I upped the wheel circumference I'd physically be doing 65-68 but the van would think I was still doing 60/62. (No idea how to work out the tyre size to gear box ratio!)

[F1 9LFG]

Also bear in mind that the company may well have got discounts on their insurance by limiting their vans. If you tamper with it, you could find yourself uninsured in the event of an accident.

But if upped the tyre size to a size that is standard on other kangoos I could always play dumb?

[05omegav6]

If you're on the clock then I would just sit back and enjoy the scenery