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[Vamps]

Trucks are limited to 56mph and your saying the van is limited to 62mph,which is coach speed,and your struggling to get past the trucks???

Somethings wrong somewhere,if your limiter is set at 62mph then you should be passing truck easily.

Not sure where you drive, and I know they are restricted, but I see many trucks driving in excess of 56mph, there are times when I have had to exceed 70 mph to pass a truck on the A689 between Sedgefield and Billingham on my regular commute, and everywhere else......

[05omegav6]

Just to clarify...

1. Hgvs and other articulated vehicles are legally permitted to travel at 60mph.
2. Any vehicle weighing over 3.5t must, by law, be fitted with a speed limiting device which prevents the vehicle from exceeding 56mph. There is a from date, but iirc it is 2001
3. Limiters worfk by shutting fuel off. They have no control over gearing or laws of physics such as gravity or momentum.

Identical trucks, with identical limiters, calibrated by the same person with behave differently with different loads.
Factor in an infinite number of fitters, several types/makes of truck and different limiters and you'll find variations from 55-58 MPH.

Don't forget you need to be doing at least 110% of the speed of the vehicle you are passing in order to overtake safely

Hopefully that should help explain the some of the discrepancies between vehicles

[Sir Tigger KC]

Just to be pedantic...    Trucks are limited to 90kph which equals 56mph. 

[F1 9LFG]

Trucks are limited to 56mph and your saying the van is limited to 62mph,which is coach speed,and your struggling to get past the trucks???

Somethings wrong somewhere,if your limiter is set at 62mph then you should be passing truck easily.

Not sure where you drive, and I know they are restricted, but I see many trucks driving in excess of 56mph, there are times when I have had to exceed 70 mph to pass a truck on the A689 between Sedgefield and Billingham on my regular commute, and everywhere else......

agree..but confused by the below 

[F1 9LFG]

Just to clarify...

1. Hgvs and other articulated vehicles are legally permitted to travel at 60mph.
2. Any vehicle weighing over 3.5t must, by law, be fitted with a speed limiting device which prevents the vehicle from exceeding 56mph. There is a from date, but iirc it is 2001
3. Limiters worfk by shutting fuel off. They have no control over gearing or laws of physics such as gravity or momentum.

Identical trucks, with identical limiters, calibrated by the same person with behave differently with different loads.
Factor in an infinite number of fitters, several types/makes of truck and different limiters and you'll find variations from 55-58 MPH.

Don't forget you need to be doing at least 110% of the speed of the vehicle you are passing in order to overtake safely

Hopefully that should help explain the some of the discrepancies between vehicles

90% of the hgvs I try to over take I gps at 60 (ish) mph?? I gps my top speed at a max of 64mph but often float at about 61-62mph?

[05omegav6]

Then your limiter is working as it should

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I wish the d..k head in the mini truck behind me today had been fitted with a limiter to match his absence of intelligence.

I was doing 80 mph on the M25. leaving a large gap between me and the heavy traffic in front of me doing the same speed, and there was him.............6 feet from my rear bumper!!

Christ, where do these people come from?  Showed my brake lights fleetingly three times, whilst keeping my foot on the accelerator, as a warning, but he stayed where he was.  Anyway, once a clear gap opened up in front of me...........zoom.........I left him 'standing'.

 

Bet he thought you were flashing him from the rear lizzie and trying to get you to pull over for you number 

 

[F1 9LFG]

Then your limiter is working as it should

I know - that's the problem 

Thanks for all your replies anyway 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I got stuck behind a white van man sat in the outside lane of a dual carriageway at 62mph this afternoon..... 

There was a big line of cars behind and he had plenty of opportunities to move over to let us all pass, but....... 

[05omegav6]

I got stuck behind a white van man sat in the outside lane of a dual carriageway at 62mph this afternoon..... 

There was a big line of cars behind and he had plenty of opportunities to move over to let us all pass, but....... 

That's reminded me, any vehicle, large or small, is NOT alllowed in the outside lane(s) of a Motorway if it has a limiter fitted

[Iain]

I got stuck behind a white van man sat in the outside lane of a dual carriageway at 62mph this afternoon..... 

There was a big line of cars behind and he had plenty of opportunities to move over to let us all pass, but....... 

That's reminded me, any vehicle, large or small, is NOT alllowed in the outside lane(s) of a Motorway if it has a limiter fitted

Just had this debate at my final Driver CPC module.The restriction for 3rd lane is down to size and weight of vehicle not limiter, just so happens that the vehicles that are banned from the outside lane happen to all have limiters fitted.I asked the question,that if my coach does 62mph, then at a section of motorway that had a 60mph limit, then i should be able to use the 3rd lane as i can keep up with the speed but thats not the case,i'm not allowed in the 3rd lane because of my weight not my restricted speed.

[dbug]

I got stuck behind a white van man sat in the outside lane of a dual carriageway at 62mph this afternoon..... 

There was a big line of cars behind and he had plenty of opportunities to move over to let us all pass, but....... 

That's reminded me, any vehicle, large or small, is NOT alllowed in the outside lane(s) of a Motorway if it has a limiter fitted

What    Even Aston Martins, BMWs etc, all of which are fitted with limiters 

Think thats bollux

[Iain]

Im confused now

Did i not say HGV's were limited to 56mph?


Thats not to say drivers abide by the law regarding tacho's and limiters...magnets etc

I still cant see how you see 90% of trucks travelling at 60+mph?

[F1 9LFG]

Im confused now

Did i not say HGV's were limited to 56mph?


Thats not to say drivers abide by the law regarding tacho's and limiters...magnets etc

I still cant see how you see 90% of trucks travelling at 60+mph?

As 60mph is the limit on a motorway for these trucks.

Their tachometers will warn them once they go above 56mph but in the uk they can go to 60 without breaking the law.

There are differences in tachos I know, depends on the set up of the tacho but 60 is legal for hgv / 7.5t+

[05omegav6]

I got stuck behind a white van man sat in the outside lane of a dual carriageway at 62mph this afternoon..... 

There was a big line of cars behind and he had plenty of opportunities to move over to let us all pass, but....... 

That's reminded me, any vehicle, large or small, is NOT alllowed in the outside lane(s) of a Motorway if it has a limiter fitted

What    Even Aston Martins, BMWs etc, all of which are fitted with limiters 

Think thats bollux

Pop this in your pipe and smoke it...

The types of vehicles not permitted to use the right hand lane on a motorway (which has three or more lanes) are,

1. A goods vehicle having a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes,
2. A goods vehicle having a maximum laden weight exceeding 3.5 tonnes but not exceeding 7.5 tonnes, which is required to be fitted with a speed limiter
3. A goods vehicle which (among other things) cannot travel over 60mph
4. A passenger vehicle which is constructed or adapted to carry more than eight seated passengers in addition to the driver the maximum laden weight of which exceeds 7.5 tonnes;
5. A passenger vehicle which is constructed or adapted to carry more than eight seated passengers in addition to the driver the maximum laden weight of which does not exceed 7.5 tonnes, which is required to be fitted with a speed limiter.
6. A passenger vehicle which (among other things) cannot travel over 60mph
7. A vehicle drawing a trailer
8. A vehicle which is a motor tractor, a light locomotive or a heavy locomotive.

There are exceptions to this rule which are,

when it is necessary for the vehicle to be driven to enable it to pass another vehicle which is carrying or drawing a load of exceptional width. for a vehicle to change lane during a period when it would not be reasonably practicable for it to do so without involving danger of injury to any person or inconvenience to other traffic.

Any vehicle using the outside lane(s) must be capable of exceeding 60 mph. Simples.

People who are suggesting that lorries are travelling at 60+ mph are probably using their speedos to judge the speed of the lorries. If your speedo is saying 60mph, then you're almost certainly only doing 56/57mph at most. Almost all car speedos overread, hence there being no real excuse to being caught speeding. Truck (over 3.5t) speedos are generally calibrated along with the tachograph.

As I understand it, magnets etc are used to fool tachographs into thinking that the vehicle is stationary. This is for working time/driving time fraud purposes, not speed