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[05omegav6]

Im confused now

Did i not say HGV's were limited to 56mph?


Thats not to say drivers abide by the law regarding tacho's and limiters...magnets etc

I still cant see how you see 90% of trucks travelling at 60+mph?

As 60mph is the limit on a motorway for these trucks.

Their tachometers will warn them once they go above 56mph but in the uk they can go to 60 without breaking the law.

There are differences in tachos I know, depends on the set up of the tacho but 60 is legal for hgv / 7.5t+

Not quite
Tachographs record drivers activities, such as driving/other work/rest periods, and vehicle movement-basically speed and distance.

Limiters simply restrict a vehicles speed by shutting off the fuel. They have no control over gravity/momentum.

As explained on Monday, UK Law permits vehicles weighing 3.5t and above to travel at upto 60 mph on motorways, but European Law requires that those vehicles of 3.5t and above be fitted with devices which limit their maximum speed to 90kmh or 56 mph. 

[F1 9LFG]

Im confused now

Did i not say HGV's were limited to 56mph?


Thats not to say drivers abide by the law regarding tacho's and limiters...magnets etc

I still cant see how you see 90% of trucks travelling at 60+mph?

As 60mph is the limit on a motorway for these trucks.

Their tachometers will warn them once they go above 56mph but in the uk they can go to 60 without breaking the law.

There are differences in tachos I know, depends on the set up of the tacho but 60 is legal for hgv / 7.5t+

Not quite
Tachographs record drivers activities, such as driving/other work/rest periods, and vehicle movement-basically speed and distance.

Limiters simply restrict a vehicles speed by shutting off the fuel. They have no control over gravity/momentum.

As explained on Monday, UK Law permits vehicles weighing 3.5t and above to travel at upto 60 mph on motorways, but European Law requires that those vehicles of 3.5t and above be fitted with devices which limit their maximum speed to 90kmh or 56 mph. 

So it's these lorries on the UK law setting of 60mph I'm having problems with.

well short of using my own car/bike I guess I'll have to put up with it for now 

Cheers 

[05omegav6]

You'll get used to it soon enough

Plan a bit further ahead, and only try and pass them going uphill. Treat the limiter as a sort  of cruise control and keep your right foot buried

The hardest bit will be adapting the way you drive to allow for it

[paul.lovejoy]

Limiter is probably programed in the ECU from the factory. You should be doing 6mph more than any HGV, so using the 10% principle, you should be able to overtake them safely.

Might be worth a reread of the highway code. If the laden weight of your Kangoo is over 1999kgs, then it isn't considered to be a car derived van, this restricts you to 60 on dual carriageways and 50 on single carriageways

quite a few van drivers dont know that i bet.....i didnt . does that inc 60 on a motorway

[dbug]

I got stuck behind a white van man sat in the outside lane of a dual carriageway at 62mph this afternoon..... 

There was a big line of cars behind and he had plenty of opportunities to move over to let us all pass, but....... 

That's reminded me, any vehicle, large or small, is NOT alllowed in the outside lane(s) of a Motorway if it has a limiter fitted

What    Even Aston Martins, BMWs etc, all of which are fitted with limiters 

Think thats bollux

Pop this in your pipe and smoke it...

you quoted all exceptions in this post, yet previously stated any vehicle with a limiter is not allowed in outside lane of motorway - thats whats bollux

[05omegav6]

  limiting summat to 155mph is kind of irrelevant as you can still only do 70 max here

Besides, for the sake of being pedantic, even though such cars are limited to 155mph, they are capable of exceeding 60mph, and are therefore able to freely use the outside lane

[Iain]

Im confused now

Did i not say HGV's were limited to 56mph?


Thats not to say drivers abide by the law regarding tacho's and limiters...magnets etc

I still cant see how you see 90% of trucks travelling at 60+mph?

As 60mph is the limit on a motorway for these trucks.

Their tachometers will warn them once they go above 56mph but in the uk they can go to 60 without breaking the law.

There are differences in tachos I know, depends on the set up of the tacho but 60 is legal for hgv / 7.5t+

Dont know where you are getting this info from to be honest but any goods vehicle over 3.5 ton has a tacho fitted,which means it has a speed limiter fitted also,which is set to 56mph.It will not warn the driver that they are going above 56mph it simply stops the vehicle accelerating anymore.You can sit with your foot to the floor all day long but it wont go any faster than 56mph. Fact!
If it is going faster it will be either 1 of 2 things

1:- Overspeed, which is also known as over run- i.e momentum speeding the vehicle up going downhill
2:- Tachograph unit having been tampered with illegally

It makes no odds whatsoever what the speed limit is, the vehicle is only permitted to travel at the speed set by the limiter which is decided by the European Union in Brussels 56MPH

Any vehicle over 9 passenger seats is fitted with a tacho and the same rules apply, only difference is a coach is limited to 62mph

[05omegav6]

Limiter is probably programed in the ECU from the factory. You should be doing 6mph more than any HGV, so using the 10% principle, you should be able to overtake them safely.

Might be worth a reread of the highway code. If the laden weight of your Kangoo is over 1999kgs, then it isn't considered to be a car derived van, this restricts you to 60 on dual carriageways and 50 on single carriageways

quite a few van drivers dont know that i bet.....i didnt . does that inc 60 on a motorway

Anything upto 3.5t can do 70 unless towing

Just to stir the mud a bit

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q590.htm

There will be a test

[Iain]

Do you know what really annoys me,the amount of people on the road that dont know the rules of the road and the law which they should be abiding by

I drive for a living and have to deal with incompetant drivers everyday.Standard of driving on the road these days is pathetic and the amount of car/van and even so called proffesional drivers of HGV/PCV that dont know the rules and laws is ridiculous