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65th Anniversary of the "Dambusters"
« on: 16 May 2008, 23:04:39 »
If you missed the flypast to commerate the lives of those lost on this historical raid, there is 7 minutes of BBC report here ..  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7404554.stm

"Lest We Forget"

"We live in freedom through their sacrifice"
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Re: 65th Anniversary of the "Dambusters"
« Reply #1 on: 16 May 2008, 23:15:44 »
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Re: 65th Anniversary of the "Dambusters"
« Reply #2 on: 16 May 2008, 23:17:28 »
Still no campaign medal for Bomber Command, yet Prince Harry is given a gong for a few weeks in Afghanistan., doesn't seem right does it? >:(
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« Reply #3 on: 16 May 2008, 23:19:20 »
Yes and 53 of 617 squadron did not return on this mission which caused much damage in the Ruhr Valley in 1943, and more importantly boosted the morale of the British population.

We must never forget their sacrifice. :y :y
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« Reply #4 on: 16 May 2008, 23:20:33 »
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Still no campaign medal for Bomber Command, yet Prince Harry is given a gong for a few weeks in Afghanistan., doesn't seem right does it? >:(


Not right!  It's blxxdy criminal they didn't! >:( >:(
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Re: 65th Anniversary of the "Dambusters"
« Reply #5 on: 16 May 2008, 23:25:04 »
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Still no campaign medal for Bomber Command, yet Prince Harry is given a gong for a few weeks in Afghanistan., doesn't seem right does it? >:(


Whilst I have massive sympathy for the members of Bomber Command .. who lost 55,500 crew during the war (and that is NOT a typo), the "Aircrew Medal" is/was intended to treat ALL lost/missing aircrew equally. singling out Bomber Command would tend to diminish the efforts of many other, smaller units who also lost crews.

IMHO every single person who  gave their lives in any field deserve our thanks.. they are the only reason we are free to speak English not German
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« Reply #6 on: 16 May 2008, 23:27:05 »
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Still no campaign medal for Bomber Command, yet Prince Harry is given a gong for a few weeks in Afghanistan., doesn't seem right does it? >:(


Whilst I have massive sympathy for the members of Bomber Command .. who lost 55,500 crew during the war (and that is NOT a typo), the "Aircrew Medal" is/was intended to treat ALL lost/missing aircrew equally. singling out Bomber Command would tend to diminish the efforts of many other, smaller units who also lost crews.

IMHO every single person who  gave their lives in any field deserve our thanks.. they are the only reason we are free to speak English not German

I am confused here....didn't Fighter Command pilots receive campaign medals?
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....and anyway the USA Bomber Group, who lost 80,000+ over Europe flying from the UK did receive campaign medals, and most of our other forces did as well (apart from the merchant navy crews >:( >:()
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« Reply #7 on: 16 May 2008, 23:27:35 »
I live just a few miles North of RAF Scampton, and to see the place now is very sad. Only the Red Arrows there now, but for how much longer? Even the Lancaster gate guardian went, a few years back, similarly, the Vulcans left around the time of the Falklands war.
With MOD cutbacks the place has no future at all, sadly.  
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Still no campaign medal for Bomber Command, yet Prince Harry is given a gong for a few weeks in Afghanistan., doesn't seem right does it? >:(


Whilst I have massive sympathy for the members of Bomber Command .. who lost 55,500 crew during the war (and that is NOT a typo), the "Aircrew Medal" is/was intended to treat ALL lost/missing aircrew equally. singling out Bomber Command would tend to diminish the efforts of many other, smaller units who also lost crews.

IMHO every single person who  gave their lives in any field deserve our thanks.. they are the only reason we are free to speak English not German

I am confused here....didn't Fighter Command pilots receive campaign medals?
 :-/

I'm pretty sure Fighter Command received campaign medals, but for reasons of "political correctness" Bomber Command didn't.
Mustn't upset the Germans.
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« Reply #9 on: 16 May 2008, 23:32:39 »
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I live just a few miles North of RAF Scampton, and to see the place now is very sad. Only the Red Arrows there now, but for how much longer? Even the Lancaster gate guardian went, a few years back, similarly, the Vulcans left around the time of the Falklands war.
With MOD cutbacks the place has no future at all, sadly.  

No, but long range ballistic missiles have taken over this role.
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« Reply #10 on: 16 May 2008, 23:34:56 »
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Still no campaign medal for Bomber Command, yet Prince Harry is given a gong for a few weeks in Afghanistan., doesn't seem right does it? >:(


Whilst I have massive sympathy for the members of Bomber Command .. who lost 55,500 crew during the war (and that is NOT a typo), the "Aircrew Medal" is/was intended to treat ALL lost/missing aircrew equally. singling out Bomber Command would tend to diminish the efforts of many other, smaller units who also lost crews.

IMHO every single person who  gave their lives in any field deserve our thanks.. they are the only reason we are free to speak English not German

I am confused here....didn't Fighter Command pilots receive campaign medals?
 :-/

I'm pretty sure Fighter Command received campaign medals, but for reasons of "political correctness" Bomber Command didn't.
Mustn't upset the Germans.


This was the start of (mistaken) political correctness!  Bloody cheek is it not; an insult to the men who risked their lives to give us the freedom to be 'pc'! >:( >:( >:(
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Re: 65th Anniversary of the "Dambusters"
« Reply #11 on: 16 May 2008, 23:36:45 »
my dads british legion club is full of the old boys,all ex servicemen. true brits. lovley people too. look after each other too.  :y :y
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« Reply #12 on: 16 May 2008, 23:38:25 »
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my dads british legion club is full of the old boys,all ex servicemen. true brits. lovley people too. look after each other too.  :y :y

A dying breed?
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« Reply #13 on: 16 May 2008, 23:40:47 »
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I live just a few miles North of RAF Scampton, and to see the place now is very sad. Only the Red Arrows there now, but for how much longer? Even the Lancaster gate guardian went, a few years back, similarly, the Vulcans left around the time of the Falklands war.
With MOD cutbacks the place has no future at all, sadly.  

No, but long range ballistic missiles have taken over this role.

Long range ballistic missiles of the type we have are only armed with nuclear warheads (Trident & Polaris/chevaline before that) which can only be launched with the express permission of the USA. If we wanted to deliver conventional explosives, all we are left with are the dear old Tornados, plus a few Tomahawk (cruise) missiles, which are only medium(ish) range.
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« Reply #14 on: 16 May 2008, 23:46:35 »
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my dads british legion club is full of the old boys,all ex servicemen. true brits. lovley people too. look after each other too.  :y :y

A dying breed?
 :-/ :-/
i dont often go for a drink with my dad but when i do i have a good night.
british legion is no more than 50 ft from me, and pub other side of that, i dont usually get further than there now  :) :) :)
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