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[Varche]

I was down in Malaga yesterday. A 2004 omega estate pulled up.

Got chatting to the Spanish owner. Got any problems with your Omega? No. If you do have join OOF. Ah yes, I know about that forum.   

Actually I am thinking about selling my 2.5 Dti (top of the range) estate with interstellar mileage. So I asked him how much (sadly I actually asked how much he paid !!) 7000 euros he said rather taken aback. How much are you looking for it? 5000 euros (about £4250). GASP

paintwork was a bit poor but a lovely deep burgundy I haven't seen before. It had bumper damage from braille parkers. Loads of extras that weren't fitted to UK cars. Folding mirrors.  One thing I haven't seen before was some sort of box affair(3 inch deep, 2 foot by 1 foot six maybe) fixed in the middle of the ceiling lining inside the car. Maybe DVD in car? Anyone know?

Anyway it wasn't the car for me ! No harm in recruiting and asking........ The search goes on.

[05omegav6]

That will be a fold down screen

Might also be a similar one in the top corner of the boot for discs if the player isn't built into the screen

[plym ian]

In Spain I think you have to pay some sort of tax on second hand cars iirc

That's y he wanted so much

[Varche]

You are right. For an Omega about 4- 500 euros.

Even so secondhand values are still ridiculous.

[ronnyd]

Can they buy one over here and drive it back or is there some rip off EU tax to consider?.
Also, yes, the steering wheel would be on the wrong side.

[Varche]

Yes you could. You have to pay the local tax. Then insure it in Spain. Then export it (drive it or have it shipped) each about 300 to500 pounds Uk.

Then you have to convert it to a UK registration. Fairly simple procedure but with costs to create a log book. Then you have a LHD car with the driving difficulties that can sometimes cause - like you can't see as clearly pulling out of a junction.

[Rods2]

Yes you could. You have to pay the local tax. Then insure it in Spain. Then export it (drive it or have it shipped) each about 300 to500 pounds Uk.

Then you have to convert it to a UK registration. Fairly simple procedure but with costs to create a log book. Then you have a LHD car with the driving difficulties that can sometimes cause - like you can't see as clearly pulling out of a junction.

What about buying one in Germany? As long as it has a Wunder-Baum fitted of course. 

[TheBoy]

Its the UK where the Omega is ridiculously cheap. I think elsewhere, it has its rightful value TBH.

2 thinks crucify UK prices:
1) Its a Vauxhall
2) We've bred a particular generation of retards where certain badges mean a 9" penis.

[VXL V6]

Its the UK where the Omega is ridiculously cheap. I think elsewhere, it has its rightful value TBH.

2 thinks crucify UK prices:
1) Its a Vauxhall
2) We've bred a particular generation of retards where certain badges mean a 9" penis.

Age old problem of owning a Vauxhall, been discussed on ABS before now. We're all guilty of de-valuing cars (me included), you only have to look on here to see how many threads there are saying 'I wouldn't pay that', 'lets strip it for parts i'll get more for it', 'it's £500 too much' and so on and so forth.

No one seems to say that about any other brand too such a degree... and when all these Omega's have been stripped / scrapped / sold for £50 for banger racing there will be no more and everyone will wish they had kept the good ones.

Never mind eh!

[TheBoy]

Not helped by that that era of Vauxhalls disintegrate in front of your eyes.

[ronnyd]

Yes you could. You have to pay the local tax. Then insure it in Spain. Then export it (drive it or have it shipped) each about 300 to500 pounds Uk.

Then you have to convert it to a UK registration. Fairly simple procedure but with costs to create a log book. Then you have a LHD car with the driving difficulties that can sometimes cause - like you can't see as clearly pulling out of a junction.

If the car was purchased in UK then i would have assumed that a Spanish reg be reqd. Also it would be RHD and all
the visibility issues of continental driving would be the same. . Bugger, i,m totally confused now.

[Kevin Wood]

I wonder if part of the problem is the woeful lack of decent mechanics in the UK?

Let's face it, they are so poor, in general, that, if you have to rely on them to do all your car work, you might as well just buy a new car as soon as it gets to the age where it needs any work doing on it, as they become prohibitively expensive in vaseline alone to get maintained.

I wonder if it's cheaper and easier to get an old car maintained in Spain?

Also, do they have the same level of company car use in Spain? Here, every self-important facilitator of wankword bingo seemingly can't survive without a new BMW every 3 years so the used market gets flooded with perfectly good 3 year old cars, which devalues the 10 year old cars.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Yes you could. You have to pay the local tax. Then insure it in Spain. Then export it (drive it or have it shipped) each about 300 to500 pounds Uk.

Then you have to convert it to a UK registration. Fairly simple procedure but with costs to create a log book. Then you have a LHD car with the driving difficulties that can sometimes cause - like you can't see as clearly pulling out of a junction.

What about buying one in Germany? As long as it has a Wunder-Baum fitted of course. 

I sense an opportunity here!    No not in Wunder-Baum as I'm carefully nursing my nacent postcount!   

[05omegav6]

I wonder if part of the problem is the woeful lack of decent mechanics in the UK?

Let's face it, they are so poor, in general, that, if you have to rely on them to do all your car work, you might as well just buy a new car as soon as it gets to the age where it needs any work doing on it, as they become prohibitively expensive in vaseline alone to get maintained.

I wonder if it's cheaper and easier to get an old car maintained in Spain?

Also, do they have the same level of company car use in Spain? Here, every self-important facilitator of wankword bingo seemingly can't survive without a new BMW every 3 years so the used market gets flooded with perfectly horrific 3 year old cars, which devalues the 10 year old cars.

Fixed

[Varche]

ronnyd - the car the chap had for sale was a LHD Spanish market car. Always had a Spanish plate on it. The 2.5 Dti was never sold in Britain. The diesel is more powerful than the 2.5 BMW engine fitted to earlier Omegas. The 2.5Dti also had a six speed gearbox. Auto Omegas are rare in Spain.

Kevin. Spot on with company cars. They maybe a feature now but this is a country that up till 10 or 20 years ago still used animals for ploughing etc. Britain had to mechanise to feed everyone during/after WW2. So there never was the glut of 3 year old company cars flooding the market. They did have the scrappage scheme a couple of years back like the one in the UK.

Residuals are higher as the cars don't rust for one thing and no one ever seems to sell their cars.

Maintenance. Garages here still tend to be motor mechanics rather than technicians who replace stuff. I whacked the Omega exhaust a few years back on a rock. The garage said he could fit a new exhaust (about £450) but take it to the general engineer up the road and he will saw the flattened part out and weld a new section in as rest is in god nick. Did that and the cost was £10!! Spare parts tend to be more here though. Maybe transport over larger distances(bigger country) plays a part. Where is Omegatoy when you need an objective view from the ground?