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[footloose]

Hello, Just bought a jaguar x type 3lt v6. After driving my latest Omega for the last couple of yrs  the jag seems small and not as comfortable. I have spent a small fortune trying to get it through the mot. And rust, the sills collapsed when I tried to jack it up. My omega has not cost me anything apart for the usual servicing stuff.
I have to say the jag goes like stink and the all wheel drive is good. But build quality on the Omega is far superior. So the Jag has to go and the omega will take its rightful place once again.

[tunnie]

Hope Max does not read this, he just bought an X-Type 

[omega3000]

Hope Max does not read this, he just bought an X-Type 

 

I found the car very cramped as well 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Hello, Just bought a jaguar x type 3lt v6. After driving my latest Omega for the last couple of yrs  the jag seems small and not as comfortable. I have spent a small fortune trying to get it through the mot. And rust, the sills collapsed when I tried to jack it up. My omega has not cost me anything apart for the usual servicing stuff.
I have to say the jag goes like stink and the all wheel drive is good. But build quality on the Omega is far superior. So the Jag has to go and the omega will take its rightful place once again.

Tell this to JB before he makes the mistake of buying one.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Hope Max does not read this, he just bought an X-Type 

 

I found the car very cramped as well 

Agreed. Jaguar like the term 'cosy'.....but I think 'cramped' is more appropriate.

[Crazycarzowner]

X-types are notorious for having rotten sills, if you remove the plastic sill covers and look behind them virtually everyone will have rust problems. I've seen on some Jag forums pictures posted of this and it horrendous and usually the only thing holding the sill on is the plastics. See http://www.kelsey-forums.co.uk/cgi-bin/jwm/YaBB.pl?num=1313252614   

That and the 4X4 autoboxes made of cheese and usually giving up after 60k not very good for Jaguars reputation.   

[footloose]

Anyone thinking of buying one would do well to get a good look underneath. ie. the floor pan and sills etc  also I have discovered that they are prone to oil leaks.
and the hand brake needs a good looking at as the callipers can be a bit sticky. Mine is a manual gearbox and if I am tempted again it will have to be an auto though I shall keep the Omega as this one has been really good.

[footloose]

Jasonm. Just had a look at the pics on the Jag forum and yes that bad and worse as the floor is affected as well and as I have found out a hole in the floor that should have plug in is the cause of the floor rust. the plug has come out at some stage and every time you go through a puddle water is every where. I have found a sill on Ebay that will do the job but I will flood the sills with Waxoil.

[omega3000]

X-types are notorious for having rotten sills, if you remove the plastic sill covers and look behind them virtually everyone will have rust problems. I've seen on some Jag forums pictures posted of this and it horrendous and usually the only thing holding the sill on is the plastics. See http://www.kelsey-forums.co.uk/cgi-bin/jwm/YaBB.pl?num=1313252614   

That and the 4X4 autoboxes made of cheese and usually giving up after 60k not very good for Jaguars reputation.   

 

Looks just like a montego 

[Crazycarzowner]

Footloose, yep the plugs could be one of the causes, I think the main ones though are the very bad design of the water drains themselves. They get clogged full of crap very easily & are a right bugger to clean out!

Another point to watch out for & why so many brake calipers seize is that when the pads are getting close to being worn-out the piston gets pushed right out to its extreme. This strains the piston seals and pushes them out allowing water to get in behind them thus seizing them up.

[MaxV6]

I bought my 2.5 v6 estate ,  after inspecting the sills......
even had the thing up in the air on a tyre fitting lift....   not quite spotless ,  but damn good underneath...   

covered 1500 miles in the last 10 days since purchase ...



It IS smaller than the Mv6 estate.... 

however, 


 i've just got back from some of the most enjoyable roads in the UK,  after a weekend away in North Wales....

the Jag has less grunt,  it's not quite as quick, definitely lacks some of the brutality the Mv6 is capable of,  BUT frankly is much more rewarding to drive relatively quickly than my Mv6....   it's tidy, tight, well behaved,   point and squirt,  the steering feel is much better,  the suspension is a bit tighter....   



all the toys work ,  and it's really very comfortable....   and i've done a number of long journeys.. both on motorway and A-B road.


For example Thursday, as everyone knows,   the M25 was a disaster area both morning and afternoon  ,   I went from Oxford to Tonbridge in kent,   and back,  and despite spending about 3 hours of a total 6 hour journey time , sat in stop start 1Mph traffic....   i still managed to return 31.4 mpg over the 220 mile round trip,

try that in a 3.2 Mv6 ....     nope....  it doesn't do it.... you can't.... 


this weekend,  Friday, up to Colwyn Bay, Saturday down to Llangwnadl (end of the Lleyn)  ,  today , back to Oxfordshire, via  Porthmadog ,LLyn Celyn,  Bala,  via Lake Vyrnwy , Dinas Mawddwy   , then cross country....  Welshpool to Worcester , Evesham, Stow, Burford,  Witney, Abingdon, home....       for fun,....  some great bits of road.... and not a helluva lot of traffic....   

the Jag ate it up,  still returned around  30 mpg despite being heavily laden (guitar amps,  guitars, assorted other equipment,  wife and luggage for a wedding do for 3 days... )  and energetically driven in many places , and ..

i still like the Omega.....  but i'm enjoying the Jag too !      and , having done the same journeys,  more than once,  in the mv6,  i can definitely say i'm enjoying the reduction in petrol use....   

this weekend ,  it's used 79.4 litres to cover 527 miles,       (filled up when we left,  , topped it up in colwyn bay,  filled up again when we got back.   so i know exactly how much it's used )

when i'm "enjoying" my driving,  I drive a bit Like TB....    so.....  slow , gently,  or economically aren't generally words used to describe my progress making.


not really had much rain since i bought it,  but i'm keeping a close eye on it for water leakage.. ... 

[jereboam]

Tell this to JB before he makes the mistake of buying one.

Ho hum!  Too late.

Smashing car, but I do have to admit that it broke down on the way home from the dealer last Saturday.  "Powertrain Failure" light then limp mode.  20mph on the A12 is not much fun.  After 5 minutes rest, all was well again, but it left the engine management light on.  Took car back on Monday, and light went out on the way, so I had nothing to complain about.

Got the codes read by my local garage on Wednesday, during which process, the engine management light came on again.  Got it switched off, but it came back again today (Thursday).  Looks like another trip back to the dealer.

The error that shows is a failed oxygen sensor - shouldn't be too difficult for the dealer to fix.  One thing does worry me though - it only seems to have done about 6000 miles in the last 4 years, according to the MoT certificate.  Not sure how many owners there have been, as I'm waiting for the V5 to come through. 

Otherwise, I'm pleased with it.  I certainly dont find it cramped, but I'm very short, so I don't find very many cars cramped.  Drives nicely - steering very positive after the Omega.  Much easier to reverse - Omega had lousy rear view for short people.

It's nowhere near as fast - only a 2.5l, but I don't much driving these days, and rarely in a hurry.  Cruise control painfully clumsy compared to Omega, and I miss the leather seats a bit, but given the current weather, not a lot.  Back seats don't fold down, either.  No CD player - that's a pain.  No SatNav, but the Omega's built-in one wasn't exactly user friendly, and didn't seem to be working too well of late, anyway.  It's very nice to drive on the local country lanes - feels much surer-footed than the Omega, although I had no cause for complaint on that one - it's just that this one's better.

Petrol consumption horrendous, but I think that's got a lot to do with the dodgy oxygen sensor.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Tell this to JB before he makes the mistake of buying one.

Ho hum!  Too late.

Smashing car, but I do have to admit that it broke down on the way home from the dealer last Saturday.  "Powertrain Failure" light then limp mode.  20mph on the A12 is not much fun.  After 5 minutes rest, all was well again, but it left the engine management light on.  Took car back on Monday, and light went out on the way, so I had nothing to complain about.

Got the codes read by my local garage on Wednesday, during which process, the engine management light came on again.  Got it switched off, but it came back again today (Thursday).  Looks like another trip back to the dealer.

The error that shows is a failed oxygen sensor - shouldn't be too difficult for the dealer to fix.  One thing does worry me though - it only seems to have done about 6000 miles in the last 4 years, according to the MoT certificate.  Not sure how many owners there have been, as I'm waiting for the V5 to come through. 

Otherwise, I'm pleased with it.  I certainly dont find it cramped, but I'm very short, so I don't find very many cars cramped.  Drives nicely - steering very positive after the Omega.  Much easier to reverse - Omega had lousy rear view for short people.

It's nowhere near as fast - only a 2.5l, but I don't much driving these days, and rarely in a hurry.  Cruise control painfully clumsy compared to Omega, and I miss the leather seats a bit, but given the current weather, not a lot.  Back seats don't fold down, either.  No CD player - that's a pain.  No SatNav, but the Omega's built-in one wasn't exactly user friendly, and didn't seem to be working too well of late, anyway.  It's very nice to drive on the local country lanes - feels much surer-footed than the Omega, although I had no cause for complaint on that one - it's just that this one's better.

Petrol consumption horrendous, but I think that's got a lot to do with the dodgy oxygen sensor.

Despite my dislike of the X-Type Mondeo, I hope that all ends well for you, Mr JB.

[jereboam]

Everyone says it's a Mondeo, and I was happy to believe them.  But now I've driven it for a bit, I'm not really convinced about that.  OK, I know it uses the same floor pan, and the engine is "based on" an engine used in the Mondeo range, but it's a different car altogether.  I had a Mondeo of approximately the same vintage as this car, and I really didn't get on with it - O.K., it was a 2.0l Diesel estate, which you wouldn't expect to be exactly the same, but the X-type feels like a Jaguar, not a Mondeo - there's a huge amount of effort gone into this particular upgrade, and I think it's paid off. 

But then, I would say that, wouldn't I?

[Marks DTM Calib]

Its the AWD setups on them that are a nightmare hence the  WD is by far the better option, also remember its a 'change all four tyres at once' need on the AWD.....makes tyre changes eye watering

But yes, rust is a big issue.