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[Entwood]

It's all getting really stupid ... several years ago I wrote/designed several successful web sites using HTML 4 and Notepad .. now you need mega complicated software and the simplicity has gone...

Tried to do one recently using "Web Matrix" as I was told it was a simple to use design tool ..... if that's simple then I'm even stupider than I thought ...

I'm doing the design concept in notepad/html .. and if they want it fancier they can pay someone mega bucks to do it ..

[Rods2]

HTML is fine for a basic website, but as soon as you need a dynamic site with good user interaction then you need to employ a whole raft of other technologies.

Yes, the number of technologies has grown but so has the demands required for a good user experiences on the Internet.

Personally, I'm quite happy working in an HTML 5, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, MySQL, XML, Web Services environment as it enables me to construct effective solutions for my customers who make money from their customers where I work with them with marketing assistance and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO), Google pay per click (PPC) campaigns to turn their websites into a profit centre.

I personally prefer coding direct as I hate fighting the limits of web design tools, but as a minimum you need a decent multi-file text editor.

[aaronjb]

but as a minimum you need a decent multi-file text editor.

And a good knowledge of CSS (at least the box model) as we all know tables based layout is bad juju..

Which reminds me of this:

[Kevin Wood]

but as a minimum you need a decent multi-file text editor.

And a good knowledge of CSS (at least the box model) as we all know tables based layout is bad juju..

Which reminds me of this:

 

[TheBoy]

but as a minimum you need a decent multi-file text editor.

And a good knowledge of CSS (at least the box model) as we all know tables based layout is bad juju..

Which reminds me of this:

I still prefer tables.  Trouble with CSS for positioning is exactly as per your image - we've all hit that one

But, CSS is where its at now.


For MS technology servers, my preferred tool is Visual Studio. For LAMP technologies, vi is still hard to beat.  Note, neither are much cop at web design, but great for the coding side...

[Rods2]

I use divs, span and CSS for everything except tabular data which is what tables are for and one other area and that is if you have a vertical menu area with a coloured background and you always want the background to the depth of the page. Normally CSS will only make the background colour the depth of the contents of the column or you can set a fixed depth which is no good for a template covering pages of variable length content. There are CSS solution to this problem but they are complex so it is just so much easier to use a table with one column for the coloured column which is normally for a menu and the other for the contents.

I can't see the point in using complex solutions for the purity point of view when there are much simpler ways. I find the flexibility of using divs much quicker for page construction, buy browser incompatibilities are a pain in the butt.

My day-to-day editor is Multi-Edit, just because I've been using it for many years and know it well, but if I was going to upgrade there are several very good free editors I have tried. For direct Linux editing I appreciate the power of vi macros for making bulk changes, but I never really got on with it as an editor, so I tend to use nano. Not that I do much direct editing it tends to be just httpd.conf and php.ini.