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chrisgixer

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Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« on: 31 July 2013, 21:35:05 »

....Like reverse?

The thought occurred today. (yes I know  :o )

 I was using the gears manually on my auto box. Just for some extra engine braking following another car, as I'd misjudged it slightly.

On re engaging drive, I was slightly unsure how many gears I'd gone down,(long day) and hence needing to go back up the same number to engage normal drive again. So had to visually look at the selector. I nearly engaged neutral, but not quite. So I wasn't far off.

But suppose I went really daft and actually went passed neutral and selected reverse? (Wince) ...what would happen?
 Would there be a nasty noise and an expired box? Or, as the box is electronic, would the box refuse to engage the apparently desired gear and save the idiot drivers blushes by refusing...?
It does this if engaging first at excess speed, as the revs would be too high. So will only engage second or whatever, until the road speed was low enough. Blah...


What happens if engaging reverse at speed...? :-\

Who wants to try it? ;D
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #1 on: 31 July 2013, 21:37:53 »

You have to pull the lever to get it to enter reverse!

But, there is a failsafe anyway.  It won't allow a gear to engage until the speeds are within a tolerance.  I'll let you test it though!  ;D
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #2 on: 31 July 2013, 21:39:58 »

Mechanical autos make quite an interesting graunching type noise.... apparently  :-X
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #3 on: 31 July 2013, 21:41:20 »

Mechanical autos make quite an interesting graunching type noise.... apparently  :-X

That'll be the rear subframe making a bid for freedom. ;)
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #4 on: 31 July 2013, 21:43:53 »

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So had to visually look at the selector.  ....

It wasn't till I got the Omega that I realised how much I used to use the Senator's dash PRN321 tell tale.  ;) ;)

We'll let you try it on your g/box  :y :y :y
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #5 on: 31 July 2013, 21:48:01 »

Seriously, the BMW doesnt engage reverse until the car is 100% stationary..... I have got into a habit of popping it in reverse as I'm slowing (when parking).... I have taken that habit to the Omega, and it will not engage reverse gear until the car is nearly stopped.  No popping, no banging into gear... it just settles in.

I'd imagine a foot full of throttle might end up with Transmission and differential planet gears being spread across the neighbourhood though.  :-\
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #6 on: 31 July 2013, 22:03:00 »

Seriously, the BMW doesnt engage reverse until the car is 100% stationary..... I have got into a habit of popping it in reverse as I'm slowing (when parking).... I have taken that habit to the Omega, and it will not engage reverse gear until the car is nearly stopped.  No popping, no banging into gear... it just settles in.

I'd imagine a foot full of throttle might end up with Transmission and differential planet gears being spread across the neighbourhood though.  :-\
Talking yourself into a job there BM. ;)
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #7 on: 31 July 2013, 22:09:09 »

Seriously, the BMW doesnt engage reverse until the car is 100% stationary..... I have got into a habit of popping it in reverse as I'm slowing (when parking).... I have taken that habit to the Omega, and it will not engage reverse gear until the car is nearly stopped.  No popping, no banging into gear... it just settles in.

I'd imagine a foot full of throttle might end up with Transmission and differential planet gears being spread across the neighbourhood though.  :-\
Talking yourself into a job there BM. ;)

More than likely  ;D

Although, the handbook does state that when stuck in mud.... yadda yadda yadda.

I daren't try it at say 5 or 10mph.... I'm only rolling to a stop when I engage reverse.  The Omega is great.... it lets me slowly depress the throttle and I can then reverse onto my driveway.  The BMW is a tinker...... I can change into Reverse (It says 'R' on the dash) whilst still creeping forward, but until I have put my foot on the brake until the car is STOPPED it will not engage.
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #8 on: 31 July 2013, 22:09:47 »

Seriously, the BMW doesnt engage reverse until the car is 100% stationary..... I have got into a habit of popping it in reverse as I'm slowing (when parking)....  .....

My Merc will let you engage reverse at a few mph forwards, but my gear selector is a short stumpy arm on the column which engages the gearbox electrically. It won't engage Park while on the move ........ I've tried it - accidently!
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #9 on: 31 July 2013, 23:19:07 »

Seriously, the BMW doesnt engage reverse until the car is 100% stationary..... I have got into a habit of popping it in reverse as I'm slowing (when parking)....  .....

My Merc will let you engage reverse at a few mph forwards, but my gear selector is a short stumpy arm on the column which engages the gearbox electrically. It won't engage Park while on the move ........ I've tried it - accidently!

My Citroen was exactly like that..... :y :y
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #10 on: 31 July 2013, 23:39:37 »

Mechanical autos make quite an interesting graunching type noise.... apparently  :-X

That'll be the rear subframe making a bid for freedom. ;)

It was a C reg black cab that a firm I worked for had bought a fleet of to replace several G reg Transits ::)

Incidentally, the Transits used to drop into reverse nicely at anything upto 35mph, especially if the road was damp 8) they were manual though...
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #11 on: 01 August 2013, 00:11:56 »

Mechanical autos make quite an interesting graunching type noise.... apparently  :-X

That'll be the rear subframe banjo axle and a couple of leaf springs making a bid for freedom. ;)

It was a C reg black cab that a firm I worked for had bought a fleet of to replace several G reg Transits ::)

Incidentally, the Transits used to drop into reverse nicely at anything upto 35mph, especially if the road was damp 8) they were manual though...

Ahh. post revised. ;)
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #12 on: 01 August 2013, 14:13:43 »

Seriously, the BMW doesnt engage reverse until the car is 100% stationary..... I have got into a habit of popping it in reverse as I'm slowing (when parking)....  .....

My Merc will let you engage reverse at a few mph forwards, but my gear selector is a short stumpy arm on the column which engages the gearbox electrically. It won't engage Park while on the move ........ I've tried it - accidently!

Bloody good job too I should think :o :o
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #13 on: 01 August 2013, 15:53:53 »



Bloody good job too I should think :o :o


I was trying to wash my screen ..... the transmission selector is where the Omega's wiper stalk is  ::)  ::)  ::)
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Re: Auto. Suppose I select an incorrect gear...?
« Reply #14 on: 01 August 2013, 17:38:34 »

I did the accidental switch in to Reverse at 30ish mph.  Cue a very rapid deceleration.  No damage was apparent short or long term.  Once I pulled my teeth out of the steering wheel and changed my trousers we drove off again.  Just glad no one was behind because we almost stopped dead in our tracks. Without brake lights it would have been a certain accident :-[
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