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[chrisgixer]

Following in from another thread...

How do you get it?

Why does it exist?

Is it "fair" ? As described in the media.

[pscocoa]

Do you have BT Infinity or BT Broadband - very cheap if you have

If you have Sky and want to extend you can do that for nothing I think provided you have BT Infinity or BT Broadband.

If you have your broadband from Sky for example then I think they want £12 a month.

They obviously want to push BT broadband packages and line rentals.

If not using Sky, to get full HD and extra channels you will need to hardwire router to Youview box that they supply FOC. Powerline adaptors will only give you SD.

[I_want_an_Omega]

This seems totally illogical to me. I have BT Vision and therefore get the Sport for "free".

However, I would not watch sport if you paid me - so it seems that I'm subsidising those who do want to watch it.

There will be an article on R4 sometime between 12:00 and 13:00 (You & yours) tomorrow about this.

Hey ho

[chrisgixer]

We have sky TV and sky broadband. So I guess sky want £12 MORE than we already pay them.

So on the question of fairness, how does paying sky another £12 a month for what we where getting from them, pre Setanta days, as part of our sub,  make it fairer? Its £12 extra !

Have offcom/monopolies/fair trade/mergers or whatever the hell they are, thought this through..?



I bet Bt broadband is more than £12 ?

[mantahatch]

I have BT infiniti at home and we signed up a few weeks back. All we had to do was sign up to another 12 month broadband deal and the BT sport is "free"
I am happy with BT broadband so no problem there. I think there channel launches tonight at 6pm. Only real reason for having it is so youngest lad can maybe watch Southampton play football. No comments on that bit please 


I think infiniti is about £26 a month, but at least we can still pay quarterly. Don't know any other ISP that will allow that.
 

[pscocoa]

This is genuine competition - BT Infinity is a premium product and to attract customers BT have taken on Sky which has to be a good thing as I do not want Sky and their high charges having previously relied on Freesat.

I now get Sport for a reasonable price, a nice new Youview box with record and storage and Free HD for 12 months for a fiver so happy. Because I now have both Freesat AND Youview  I can record 4 programmes at once - which is very good seeing as I rarely record any!!

I do watch the football so happy with this result and stuff the unfairness for others

[Gaffers]

This is a major battle between BT and Sky.  BT want to take back more market share in the Broadband department and are giving away media in order to do so.

A very large consulting company is helping BT do this, hence all the public and private spats in the media.

[chrisgixer]

Its not fair at all IMO.


Liken the premier league season to, say, Wimbledon.

And lets say Sky have the rights to show it. Offcom (?) say, no, sky have to share it. So sky loose half the championship, and to watch it sky subscribers have to pay extra to see what they ALREADY had.

Further, anyone who now wants to watch half of the championship has to pay the same or similar price to those that could previously see it all. (Because you do pay, no such thing as a free lunch)


You can't put half the games on one broadcasters books and half in the other. One/tother/or not at all.

...harrumph !

[pscocoa]

Chris - the situation with Sky domination was simply unhealthy. My last brush with them was over slow broadband speeds, crap movies and paying £80 a month. If I add Sky sports to my BT package (another £20) I am still a lot better off with the additional benefit of 30mbps. It is interventions like this that improve the market and avoid complacency of a virtual monopolist. 

[chrisgixer]

Chris - the situation with Sky domination was simply unhealthy. My last brush with them was over slow broadband speeds, crap movies and paying £80 a month. If I add Sky sports to my BT package (another £20) I am still a lot better off with the additional benefit of 30mbps. It is interventions like this that improve the market and avoid complacency of a virtual monopolist. 

Absolutely no argument from me there. It is expensive. I am focusing on football it has to be said. As that's all sky had of interest for me at the time, although the ashes should be on free view IMO.

How much do you pay bt? I presume TV phone and web?

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Chris - the situation with Sky domination was simply unhealthy. My last brush with them was over slow broadband speeds, crap movies and paying £80 a month. If I add Sky sports to my BT package (another £20) I am still a lot better off with the additional benefit of 30mbps. It is interventions like this that improve the market and avoid complacency of a virtual monopolist. 

Absolutely no argument from me there. It is expensive. I am focusing on football it has to be said. As that's all sky had of interest for me at the time, although the ashes should be on free view IMO.

How much do you pay bt? I presume TV phone and web?

I have BT Infinity Broadband with unlimited anytime calls, with BT Vision.  All together Chris I pay £45 per month which I consider good value as it meets all my requirements.

[pscocoa]

Add £5 to Lizzie's number for bt sports 1 and 2 and you get also the iPad app to watch bt sports anywhere. 6pm launch approaches.

[albitz]

I currently wtch MotoGP on eurosport. Have done for donkeys years. I even used to watch F1 on there back in the day,when I fancied a rest from Muddly Talker.
After this year I cant watch it at all unless I bend over for BT,which I wont do,so from my perspective it not healthy competition at all.
If it was still on Eurosprt but BT were also showing it at as part of a viewing package which was very competitive with SKY prices,then it would be healthy competition imo.

[Rog]

I love discussions like this.   

I don't pay for any TV except my license, not because I get it for free or anything, I just don't want it. I have "normal" TV and Freeview. That's it. I don't understand where people get the time to watch so much stuff   

[tunnie]

BT Sport is doomed, you get 36 Premiership games compared to 116 with Sky. ESPN has lost all their good stuff.

You can get Sky Broadband, using "infinity" speeds too.

BSkyB's marketing budget last year was more than one billion....