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[FRE07962128]

Today the price of a barrel of oil has reached $135,  with the Daily Telegraph (front page) quoting economists predicting $200 is now a distinct possibility as demand from China and India continues to escalate with no signs of slowing down.  They state the price per litre will soon be hitting an average of £1.25.

The same economists are also quoted as predicting the price of fuel at the pumps is set to constantly rise over the next 8 YEARS, to reach within that time at least £1.50 per litre! They are therefore advising all major users of fuel (airlines, transport concerns, etc) to secure / purchase fuel deals at today's prices on their requirements for the next 8 years.

It is a shame that all oof members cannot club together and secure such deals for the next eight years by buying and storing fuel in bulk.  We could make a killing if we had the money to do it in the first place!

Just proves how the rich are going to get richer, and the rest of us much, much poorer!.....and the Government are not only enjoying inflation linked petrol tax of around 50p per litre, but escalating VAT on the ever increasing price now in excess, I am led to believe, of 11p, equating to a total of 61p per litre in all to the Government. ;

Who's for joining the planned for hauliers protests against fuel prices?

[Kevin Wood]

It's all right, though. Gordon's going to have a word with OPEC, so I heard on the news today.

Yeah, right. He needs to get his snout out of the trough first.  

Kevin

[FRE07962128]

It's all right, though. Gordon's going to have a word with OPEC, so I heard on the news today.

Yeah, right. He needs to get his snout out of the trough first.  

Kevin

Indeed Kevin, and I feel another stitch-up coming up for us motorists from that wxxker!   He relies now too much on the fuel revenue his useless Government are enjoying!

[Growler]

I believe it's also illegal to store over a certain amount of fuel  :-/

[FRE07962128]

I believe it's also illegal to store over a certain amount of fuel  :-/

You are right Growler!  You require a licence, and full H & S and Fire Dept., clearance amoungst other things to obtain one.  Bloody shame but you can just imagine what would happen now without such regulations!

Just like those HGV's coming over from Europe with hidden fuel tanks of diesel / petrol to sell!  The big bang is a coming!  

[jereboam]

It is a shame that all oof members cannot club together and secure such deals for the next eight years by buying and storing fuel in bulk.  We could make a killing if we had the money to do it in the first place!

You're talking about buying oil futures, effectively.  Speculators buying oil futures is exactly what is causing the price to rise.

At some point, world storage facilities will be full.  Presumably, we will then have an oil glut, and the price will drop.  However, this will cause a whole new set of speculators to buy cheap and sell again when the price rises.  And so on.

Whatever happens, the consumer won't win.

[FRE07962128]

It is a shame that all oof members cannot club together and secure such deals for the next eight years by buying and storing fuel in bulk.  We could make a killing if we had the money to do it in the first place!

You're talking about buying oil futures, effectively.  Speculators buying oil futures is exactly what is causing the price to rise.

At some point, world storage facilities will be full.  Presumably, we will then have an oil glut, and the price will drop.  However, this will cause a whole new set of speculators to buy cheap and sell again when the price rises.  And so on.

Whatever happens, the consumer won't win.

No you are right, especially with China, India, and Asia generally  pulling off ever increasing quantities of the world oil stocks.  The 'free market' is purely functioning as it always does!  

[Gaffers]

Today the price of a barrel of oil has reached $135,  with the Daily Telegraph (front page) quoting economists predicting $200 is now a distinct possibility as demand from China and India continues to escalate with no signs of slowing down.  They state the price per litre will soon be hitting an average of £1.25.

The same economists are also quoted as predicting the price of fuel at the pumps is set to constantly rise over the next 8 YEARS, to reach within that time at least £1.50 per litre! They are therefore advising all major users of fuel (airlines, transport concerns, etc) to secure / purchase fuel deals at today's prices on their requirements for the next 8 years.

This is the reason for the shortage and the high prices, its not the current demand as such its people bulk buying future stocks which is part of the vicious cycle we are in.....  

I can bulk but my fuel coupons but they only work in Germany and I cant pass them to others - shame, other wise I would  

[FRE07962128]

Today the price of a barrel of oil has reached $135,  with the Daily Telegraph (front page) quoting economists predicting $200 is now a distinct possibility as demand from China and India continues to escalate with no signs of slowing down.  They state the price per litre will soon be hitting an average of £1.25.

The same economists are also quoted as predicting the price of fuel at the pumps is set to constantly rise over the next 8 YEARS, to reach within that time at least £1.50 per litre! They are therefore advising all major users of fuel (airlines, transport concerns, etc) to secure / purchase fuel deals at today's prices on their requirements for the next 8 years.

This is the reason for the shortage and the high prices, its not the current demand as such its people bulk buying future stocks which is part of the vicious cycle we are in.....  

I can bulk but my fuel coupons but they only work in Germany and I cant pass them to others - shame, other wise I would  

You are not incorrect, but I believe really it is down to this and many other factors of the global 'free market'.

[Entwood]

Folks in powerful positions are now starting to make their views ....

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080522/tuk-action-call-over-soaring-oil-prices-6323e80.html

and some "reasons" (?) for the rises (slightly old ... )??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3708951.stm

latest ??

http://www.oilmarketer.co.uk/2008/05/22/wti-in-new-record-above-135-before-decline

excuses ??

http://in.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idINIndia-33683720080521

[FRE07962128]

Folks in powerful positions are now starting to make their views ....

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080522/tuk-action-call-over-soaring-oil-prices-6323e80.html

and some "reasons" (?) for the rises (slightly old ... )??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3708951.stm

latest ??

http://www.oilmarketer.co.uk/2008/05/22/wti-in-new-record-above-135-before-decline

excuses ??

http://in.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idINIndia-33683720080521

Yes Entwood, it can't carry on without something 'snapping'!
 

[Omegaani]

You're talking about buying oil futures, effectively.  Speculators buying oil futures is exactly what is causing the price to rise.

Exactly. And I suspect that most of the speculative buying is now being done by (or on behalf of) amateurs encouraged by the likes of the "economists" quoted by the Telegraph. Contrary to what they say, demand by China and others is already slowing down. Sooner or later this bubble will burst and these amateur speculators will get burned (happened before at the end of the "crisis" of the '70s).

Most of the commodities (including food) that rose primarily on the back of oil are already tumbling; oil will follow. Basic supply and demand can only be resisted for so long.

Meanwhile, the Telegraph will sell a few more papers and the lefties and other statists will try and bring in more regulation under cries of "market failure". Pray the latter don't succeed, otherwise you'll be seeing more Brown and Darling style misery for years to come.

[Nickbat]

You're talking about buying oil futures, effectively.  Speculators buying oil futures is exactly what is causing the price to rise.

Exactly. And I suspect that most of the speculative buying is now being done by (or on behalf of) amateurs encouraged by the likes of the "economists" quoted by the Telegraph. Contrary to what they say, demand by China and others is already slowing down. Sooner or later this bubble will burst and these amateur speculators will get burned (happened before at the end of the "crisis" of the '70s).

Most of the commodities (including food) that rose primarily on the back of oil are already tumbling; oil will follow. Basic supply and demand can only be resisted for so long.

Meanwhile, the Telegraph will sell a few more papers and the lefties and other statists will try and bring in more regulation under cries of "market failure". Pray the latter don't succeed, otherwise you'll be seeing more Brown and Darling style misery for years to come.

Yes, you're right to say this is a bubble and when it does burst (as all bubbles do), the price will fall rapidly. I agree that, despite being a Telegraph reader, their "oil price to stay high of for 8 years" headline is pure journalistic speculation.

Interestingly, the higher price of oil has made marginal deposits much more economic, meaning that, as the price increases, so does the potential supply. Here in the UK, the Government has received 60 applications from 54 companies to explore 182 plots.

Of course, the leftists won't take this lying down. There are huge reserves in the ANPWR (Alaskan National Park and Wildlife Reserve) and even though it is estimated that the extraction will have a "footprint" no larger than Washington's Dulles Airport, the leftists have forced the US Interior Secretary to list the polar bear as an endangered species (even though it isn't) in order to prevent drilling. They want the US economy to fold. If it does, ours will too. Fact.    

[SP_3.2]

It's all right, though. Gordon's going to have a word with OPEC, so I heard on the news today.

Yeah, right. He needs to get his snout out of the trough first.  

Kevin

Very true Kevin, That man is such an ASS

[MaxV6]

as an interesting aside, our house is built on the site of a very early petrol station....    there are pipes running down into the ground at the front boundary....

and the neighbour has opined that the reason our front lawn struggles , is that the tansk are still down there...

one wonders if it would be possible to re-instate them    Bulk purchase fuel for the OOF members....    

trouble is, typically a garage only makes a couple of pence on a Litre.. most of  the rest is that thieving bastard's taxes....

so we probably wouldn't collectively save enough to make it worth the tens of thousands it might cost to renew the tanks...

but my heart's in the right place