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[Lizzie_Zoom]

All I know is one of my grand children has severe autism AND ADHD.

This is a combination that has to be "controlled" by some strong medication, as without it this lad can be bouncing off the walls, and ceiling, at 0200!! If you tried to live through this without medication................well simply you could not!  Even with it he floods bathrooms, and turns every light and TV on, but does have quiet nights when the medication dose is increased.

Why so many children have ADHD, and autism now, I cannot answer, but thank God for the medication available!

[Gaffers]

Sorry I couldn't pay attention during this thread so skipped by most of the replies

[Vamps]

All I know is one of my grand children has severe autism AND ADHD.

This is a combination that has to be "controlled" by some strong medication, as without it this lad can be bouncing off the walls, and ceiling, at 0200!! If you tried to live through this without medication................well simply you could not!  Even with it he floods bathrooms, and turns every light and TV on, but does have quiet nights when the medication dose is increased.

Why so many children have ADHD, and autism now, I cannot answer, but thank God for the medication available!

Some do Lizzie, some do, although some parents need support / respite to manage to do so.....  

Might have an answer to the flooding problem.....

[Vamps]

hmmm, Ritalin aka "smarties". Our lad has aspergers and dystonia and when he was being looked at for the latter and he wasnt exactly being compliant( ) during the examination the specialist mentioned the use of this. No doubt many find benefit from the drug but a little research will lead you to some disturbing reports, not least around addiction and certainly American websites are not fans. As for all this stuff about the increase in ADHD I can only agree with Vamps -some behaviour is nature/genetic and some nurture/learnt.Sometimes its a bit of both. Regardless however the issues in behaviour are real enough whether the causes are seen as "genuine"/genetic or else down to "bad parenting" both "causes" need dealing with. Ive personally known a parent who over exaggerates their child's condition and actually makes their own child worse by the way they themselves behave and treat them and all because she wants attention for herself really and for people to feel sorry for her. I know this sounds really mean but its true, and naturally she also screws the benefits system for all she can .HOWEVER, her children are innocents in this .It is sometimes argued that the cuts to services  in schools and elsewhere (eg  funding for statements of educational needs) have been made because of the increase in claims upon them and that much of this increase is really down to "bad parenting" and is therefore not a genuine need. Doubtless many see "bad parenting" as not really being an excuse, but it IS undoubtedly a problem that needs tackling, not least because it can so easily self perpetuate and spread down generations. I know Mike has been warning about cuts in services for some time now and he's right. Sadly in our area a well respected proffessional working for Childrens Services who specializes in autism in children and supports all the local schools as well as parents/carers has seen her post made redundant and there is no-one to replace her and from personal experience I know how much she will be missed. Certainly the health service and the benefits system needed reviewing but this government's seemingly knee-jerk reactions give me the distinct impression that they really are the "Im alright Jack" so stuff everybody else lets line our own pockets a bit more coalition.

What a coincidence.......  

[chrisgixer]

Seems to me, that alot of these disabilities have been around along time. But our understanding, communication, and acceptance of them and minority groups generally, has improved.

From same sex marriages and divorce, to dyslexia, attention deficit to breast and testicular cancer.

Non of these where ever discussed publicly back then. Or if they where, they where usually abusive or derogatory at best at various points in history.

Now we have, aids days, cancer days, wrist bands and lapel buttons and ribbons to raise awareness etc. damn right too.

Or we'd still be in the dark ages.

[Broomies Mate]

Seems to me, that alot of these disabilities have been around along time. But our understanding, communication, and acceptance of them and minority groups generally, has improved.

From same sex marriages and divorce, to dyslexia, attention deficit to breast and testicular cancer.

Non of these where ever discussed publicly back then. Or if they where, they where usually abusive or derogatory at best at various points in history.

Now we have, aids days, cancer days, wrist bands and lapel buttons and ribbons to raise awareness etc. damn right too.

Or we'd still be in the dark ages.

   

Sorry to make light of your post Chris, I appreciate it was meant in good faith.... but I couldn't resist! 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

All I know is one of my grand children has severe autism AND ADHD.

This is a combination that has to be "controlled" by some strong medication, as without it this lad can be bouncing off the walls, and ceiling, at 0200!! If you tried to live through this without medication................well simply you could not!  Even with it he floods bathrooms, and turns every light and TV on, but does have quiet nights when the medication dose is increased.

Why so many children have ADHD, and autism now, I cannot answer, but thank God for the medication available!

Some do Lizzie, some do, although some parents need support / respite to manage to do so.....  

Might have an answer to the flooding problem.....

Please tell Vamps! 

It is a real problem, with downstairs neighbour not happy to have water pouring into her flat at 0200!!   Thank God there is a family connection with all parties involved downstairs and upstairs, so this has not escalated as it could have done with the council involved, but this is a real problem that needs resolving somehow.  The lad must be able to use the toilet at night otherwise he pees and more on his bedroom carpet!!

[TheBoy]

Seems to me, that alot of these disabilities have been around along time. But our understanding, communication, and acceptance of them and minority groups generally, has improved.

From same sex marriages and divorce, to dyslexia, attention deficit to breast and testicular cancer.

Non of these where ever discussed publicly back then. Or if they where, they where usually abusive or derogatory at best at various points in history.

Now we have, aids days, cancer days, wrist bands and lapel buttons and ribbons to raise awareness etc. damn right too.

Or we'd still be in the dark ages.

   

Sorry to make light of your post Chris, I appreciate it was meant in good faith.... but I couldn't resist! 

Oh BM, you're a wicked man

That did make me laugh, I hadn't noticed it in Gixer's post

[Broomies Mate]

Oh BM, you're a wicked man

That did make me laugh, I hadn't noticed it in Gixer's post

It tickled me. 

[Vamps]

All I know is one of my grand children has severe autism AND ADHD.

This is a combination that has to be "controlled" by some strong medication, as without it this lad can be bouncing off the walls, and ceiling, at 0200!! If you tried to live through this without medication................well simply you could not!  Even with it he floods bathrooms, and turns every light and TV on, but does have quiet nights when the medication dose is increased.

Why so many children have ADHD, and autism now, I cannot answer, but thank God for the medication available!

Some do Lizzie, some do, although some parents need support / respite to manage to do so.....  

Might have an answer to the flooding problem.....

Please tell Vamps! 

It is a real problem, with downstairs neighbour not happy to have water pouring into her flat at 0200!!   Thank God there is a family connection with all parties involved downstairs and upstairs, so this has not escalated as it could have done with the council involved, but this is a real problem that needs resolving somehow.  The lad must be able to use the toilet at night otherwise he pees and more on his bedroom carpet!!

You have PM Lizzie......

[Lizzie_Zoom]

All I know is one of my grand children has severe autism AND ADHD.

This is a combination that has to be "controlled" by some strong medication, as without it this lad can be bouncing off the walls, and ceiling, at 0200!! If you tried to live through this without medication................well simply you could not!  Even with it he floods bathrooms, and turns every light and TV on, but does have quiet nights when the medication dose is increased.

Why so many children have ADHD, and autism now, I cannot answer, but thank God for the medication available!

Some do Lizzie, some do, although some parents need support / respite to manage to do so.....  

Might have an answer to the flooding problem.....

Please tell Vamps! 

It is a real problem, with downstairs neighbour not happy to have water pouring into her flat at 0200!!   Thank God there is a family connection with all parties involved downstairs and upstairs, so this has not escalated as it could have done with the council involved, but this is a real problem that needs resolving somehow.  The lad must be able to use the toilet at night otherwise he pees and more on his bedroom carpet!!

You have PM Lizzie......

Thanks Vamps!

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