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How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« on: 14 August 2013, 11:35:49 »
X84GNB 2000 2,5 petrol manual

I am striving to change the RH exhaust manifold, following RobG and Haynes. I have to remove the oil pipes at the filter end. I have removed the paper filter, but the filter outer is still in the way. I feel it should unscrew, but it does not want to. How do I shift it?
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #1 on: 14 August 2013, 11:54:33 »
sorry terry but do you mean the base of the filter,or the top casing of filter :-\

this may help        http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90579.0
« Last Edit: 14 August 2013, 11:56:39 by noel »
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #2 on: 14 August 2013, 12:18:15 »
Quote from: terry paget on 14 August 2013, 11:35:49
X84GNB 2000 2,5 petrol manual

I am striving to change the RH exhaust manifold, following RobG and Haynes. I have to remove the oil pipes at the filter end. I have removed the paper filter, but the filter outer is still in the way. I feel it should unscrew, but it does not want to. How do I shift it?

Isn't there a hex head or cap head bolt (for an Allen key) in the middle :-\
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #3 on: 14 August 2013, 12:25:21 »
I used a rubber grip strap to grip the body and unscrewed it.
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #4 on: 14 August 2013, 12:39:58 »
Its mounted on the block using a hollow bolt.

This is either a hex (allen key style) or a spline.

So its the correct fitting inside the centre of the housing and undo.

Dead easy (when you know how)  :y
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #5 on: 14 August 2013, 12:43:31 »
I have got the filter cap off with the filter. However, the body of the filter holder is still in place, and this obstructs my undoing the oil pipes. Having read the 'how to switch filters' I imagined the paper filter holder body should unscrew like a cartridge  filter. However, using a strap wrench, I failed to turn it Thanks, Andy663. I gather you have managed it with a rubber strap. I see indentations in the filter holder suggesting there may be a special tool to unscrew it. Andy suggests that if I can get hold of it it should unscrew like a cartridge filter. Please confirm this is right.
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #6 on: 14 August 2013, 12:49:02 »
Quote from: terry paget on 14 August 2013, 12:43:31
I have got the filter cap off with the filter. However, the body of the filter holder is still in place, and this obstructs my undoing the oil pipes. Having read the 'how to switch filters' I imagined the paper filter holder body should unscrew like a cartridge  filter. However, using a strap wrench, I failed to turn it Thanks, Andy663. I gather you have managed it with a rubber strap. I see indentations in the filter holder suggesting there may be a special tool to unscrew it. Andy suggests that if I can get hold of it it should unscrew like a cartridge filter. Please confirm this is right.

No. See Mark's post above  :y
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #7 on: 14 August 2013, 13:31:34 »
My 3.2 had a lug on the back of it preventing it from turning :y only option is to undo the centre bolt :y
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #8 on: 14 August 2013, 14:48:52 »
Thank you gentlemen. My problem now is how to engage the hollow bolt. I have tried all my Allen section tools and they all seem too small. I have tried some long bolts with hexagon heads and they seem too big. I have not managed to see inside the bolt and confirm the hole is hexagonal. I am looking for more long bolts. If it is splined I am dead unless I can obtain the right tool.
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #9 on: 14 August 2013, 15:42:00 »
Quote from: terry paget on 14 August 2013, 14:48:52
Thank you gentlemen. My problem now is how to engage the hollow bolt. I have tried all my Allen section tools and they all seem too small. I have tried some long bolts with hexagon heads and they seem too big. I have not managed to see inside the bolt and confirm the hole is hexagonal. I am looking for more long bolts. If it is splined I am dead unless I can obtain the right tool.

LMGIFY  ::)  ::)
12mm Allen key it would seem.

 http://oldsite.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1240078479/0
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #10 on: 14 August 2013, 15:55:38 »
Wot e sed ;D

Sealey do a nice selection of hex/torx/spline bits with a 1/2" and 3/8" driver, about £30 :y
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #11 on: 14 August 2013, 16:22:29 »
Mine was 12mm hex http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=113744.msg1434639#msg1434639

This problem seems like another argument in favour of converting to spin on.

Incidentally no one has bought my perfect condition oil filter body yet :'( Only £15 http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=114447.msg1444883#msg1444883
« Last Edit: 14 August 2013, 16:26:00 by dbdb »
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #12 on: 14 August 2013, 16:59:26 »
Quote from: dbdb on 14 August 2013, 16:22:29
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This problem seems like another argument in favour of converting to spin on.
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My thought are completely the opposite. Why struggle to remove what is already tried & tested?  ::)
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #13 on: 14 August 2013, 17:09:54 »
Quote from: Andy B on 14 August 2013, 16:59:26
Quote from: dbdb on 14 August 2013, 16:22:29
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This problem seems like another argument in favour of converting to spin on.
 .....

My thought are completely the opposite. Why struggle to remove what is already tried & tested?  ::)

And the OP said...

Quote from: terry paget on 14 August 2013, 11:35:49
X84GNB 2000 2,5 petrol manual

I am striving to change the RH exhaust manifold, following RobG and Haynes. I have to remove the oil pipes at the filter end. I have removed the paper filter, but the filter outer is still in the way.
« Last Edit: 14 August 2013, 17:11:44 by dbdb »
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Re: How do I remove the oil filter body on a paper element filter?
« Reply #14 on: 14 August 2013, 17:38:09 »
Gentlemen, I thank you all for your help.I rushed out to Halfords and bought a 12mm hex socket, but the 1/2" body was too fat to go into the tunnel. I then found a set of long hexagons I bought years ago for Senator driveshafts, tried the 12 from that, and it would not go in. Tried the 10 and it went all the way in and did not engage. Could it be an 11? I ground the 12 down to about 11, and it engaged, but felt weak so I did not apply torque. Tomorrow I shall try to buy an 11mm long hexagon. Funny everyone is saying 12mm though. . .
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