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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #15 on: 21 August 2013, 13:00:17 »
Quote from: ex taxi al on 21 August 2013, 11:24:20
Pads are the same across the range :y last set of rear discs and pads that I bought came from a Vauxhall dealer in Reading, and were on the shelf :-\

No they aren't i'm afraid. Depends if your rear discs are vented or not.

You can get OEM pads (As per fitted at the factory) or Trade club pads. Which when I am back home I could locate and quote you the GM part numbers for.

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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #16 on: 21 August 2013, 13:27:02 »
Caliper and pad fittings are definitely different,  pad dimensions date back to the Carlton...

I shall rephrase that slightly... Carlton pads fit perfectly imhe :y
« Last Edit: 21 August 2013, 13:33:58 by ex taxi al »
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #17 on: 21 August 2013, 15:00:54 »
Quote from: ex taxi al on 21 August 2013, 13:27:02
Caliper and pad fittings are definitely different,  pad dimensions date back to the Carlton...

I shall rephrase that slightly... Carlton pads fit perfectly imhe :y

Pad thickness is different between vented and non vented disc setups, therefore if you put non-vented model pads in a vented setup the caliper pistons will be at full travel  :y
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #18 on: 21 August 2013, 16:05:37 »
Quote from: VXL V6 on 21 August 2013, 15:00:54
Quote from: ex taxi al on 21 August 2013, 13:27:02
Caliper and pad fittings are definitely different,  pad dimensions date back to the Carlton...

I shall rephrase that slightly... Carlton pads fit perfectly imhe :y

Pad thickness is differe ;)t between vented and non vented disc setups, therefore if you put non-vented model pads in a vented setup the caliper pistons will be at full travel  :y

Pad thickness same for vented/non vented discs - difference is calliper width and pin length ;)
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #19 on: 21 August 2013, 17:10:54 »
Quote from: dbug on 21 August 2013, 16:05:37
Quote from: VXL V6 on 21 August 2013, 15:00:54
Quote from: ex taxi al on 21 August 2013, 13:27:02
Caliper and pad fittings are definitely different,  pad dimensions date back to the Carlton...

I shall rephrase that slightly... Carlton pads fit perfectly imhe :y

Pad thickness is differe ;)t between vented and non vented disc setups, therefore if you put non-vented model pads in a vented setup the caliper pistons will be at full travel  :y

Pad thickness same for vented/non vented discs - difference is calliper width and pin length ;)

Sorry, yes your right - I'm obviously getting confused.com! It's when the dealer wrongly sells non vented discs and someone fits them in place of vented that the caliper pistons have an issue.

There are different pads listed for vented and non vented though... not sure why:-


Aftermarket (TC) Solid Pads - 93169001
OEM Solid Pads - 9193476
OEM vented Pads - 9195058
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #20 on: 21 August 2013, 17:12:54 »
Different compound perhaps :-\

OE vented pads might be slotted...
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #21 on: 21 August 2013, 17:18:12 »
Quote from: ex taxi al on 21 August 2013, 17:12:54
Different compound perhaps :-\

OE vented pads might be slotted...

Was thinking that - maybe they expected the non vented discs to run hotter than vented under hard braking so used a different compound.

No slots that I can recall on the set I fitted to the 3.2 a while back.  :-\
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #22 on: 21 August 2013, 17:19:27 »
I can't for the life of me remember either ::)
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #23 on: 21 August 2013, 17:20:34 »
Ah! I know!

It's because the OEM ones come with the shims and pins.... and of course the pins are longer / shorter depending which ones you buy!!!!

So logically I could by OEM ones for non-vented (there's some on Egay) and replace the pins...  :y
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #24 on: 21 August 2013, 17:29:19 »
That'll do it :y
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #25 on: 21 August 2013, 17:35:08 »
Ordered  :)

Only took two pages to sort that out!  ::)
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #26 on: 21 August 2013, 17:38:31 »
Quote from: VXL V6 on 21 August 2013, 17:35:08
Ordered  :)

Only took two pages to sort that out!  ::)

Short that is, have you seen some of the tyre threads  :o
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Re: Apec pads and discs?
« Reply #27 on: 21 August 2013, 18:10:12 »
As said, the pads are identical, its the fitting kit that varies. Obviously, only OE come with fitting kit, TC ones don't.
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