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Re: Syria
« Reply #75 on: 29 August 2013, 13:55:35 »

The best TV news programme I have seen for balanced coverage of all Middle East issues is Al Jazeera. I watch it every day while having lunch. A lot of people who have never watched it seem to think it is an Islamic propaganda programme, which it definitely is not, and  it has excellent coverage of many mid-east issues which we never hear about in the UK:y
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« Reply #76 on: 29 August 2013, 14:22:35 »

Fantastic.

Cameron and Obama agree a timetable and what military intervention for Syria.

Then Cameron says they will have a parliamentary vote on the "principle" of military action but with the promise that they will get another say before any missiles are fired.  Well that will all be too late!

UN inspectors mandate is  not to discover who used chemical weapons. It is to confirm whether they were used. 

Who controls foreign policy in Britain? Ed Miliband  ;D ;D That is a first that the government doesn't !

Has anyone ever found it a little strange that none of the main TV news channels ever reports what Europe feel about Syria? It is always USA this USA the other. For what it is worth the Frenchies are keen on military action.

Then let them feel free to go ahead, just leave us out of it  :y

I notice that the JIC letter contains no proof only strong suspicion, well to that I say " REASONABLE DOUBT" Not Guilty, and as for the legal issues well lets cross a BULLdog with a SHITzu. ;D

Why do our representatives at Westminster assume they can do what they want, this time it seems some MP's are reading their in boxes. ;)

I would bomb Mugabe first :y :y
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« Reply #77 on: 29 August 2013, 14:32:54 »

Fantastic.

Cameron and Obama agree a timetable and what military intervention for Syria.

Then Cameron says they will have a parliamentary vote on the "principle" of military action but with the promise that they will get another say before any missiles are fired.  Well that will all be too late!

UN inspectors mandate is  not to discover who used chemical weapons. It is to confirm whether they were used. 

Who controls foreign policy in Britain? Ed Miliband  ;D ;D That is a first that the government doesn't !

Has anyone ever found it a little strange that none of the main TV news channels ever reports what Europe feel about Syria? It is always USA this USA the other. For what it is worth the Frenchies are keen on military action.

Then let them feel free to go ahead, just leave us out of it  :y

I notice that the JIC letter contains no proof only strong suspicion, well to that I say " REASONABLE DOUBT" Not Guilty, and as for the legal issues well lets cross a BULLdog with a SHITzu. ;D

Why do our representatives at Westminster assume they can do what they want, this time it seems some MP's are reading their in boxes. ;)

I would bomb Mugabe first :y :y

If you want more concrete evidence I'm sure they'll fabricate find some soon. :y
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« Reply #78 on: 29 August 2013, 15:24:50 »

Not sure what was going on but the sky's were very busy last night (Wednesday) over West Norfolk with military aircraft both American and British going off,but didnt hear or see them coming back???
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« Reply #79 on: 29 August 2013, 15:39:18 »

Not sure what was going on but the sky's were very busy last night (Wednesday) over West Norfolk with military aircraft both American and British going off,but didnt hear or see them coming back???

Gone to Cyprus I bet :(
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« Reply #80 on: 29 August 2013, 16:06:53 »

Same happened when they went after Saddam,it was a day or two later that it all went off :-[ :-\ :(
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« Reply #81 on: 29 August 2013, 17:26:04 »

I have been listening to the debate in the House Of Commons and although I am loathe to admit it, I agree with every word of the speech by George Galloway of all people.  The only ones making sense are those opposed to us getting involved  :y :y

Bernard Jenkin should be sent aboard the first cruise missile, talk about war war war >:( >:(
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« Reply #82 on: 29 August 2013, 17:42:42 »

An anorak friend told me that Typhoons have been sent from Lincolnshire to Cyprus and last night was "heavy stuff" deploying from bases here in Norfolk. I imagine when he means "heavy" I think he means transport,refuelling and radar planes ??? :-[ :-\
Just heard that Russia is beefing up their hardware in the med as well,all looks iffy :(
My bet is Saturday  :-\
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« Reply #83 on: 29 August 2013, 18:03:53 »

cem. What do you personally and also the Turkish government think the rest of the world should do about Syria?

first of all we are neighbours with syria..  and there is a Turkish population left from ottoman empire time..
 
and Kurds and Turks in syria dont love each other ;D  so we already had a problem there..
 
but our govt from the very first moment the rebel action started , supported the rebels because assad is from another muslim religious group.. more than 100K rebels jumped over here, and start to live and create all sorts of trouble..  and causing hundreds of million US$ every month.. and another problem our south east region was making trade with syria and now all is cut.. so I can easily say this rebel action currently costs 1 billion US$ every month >:(  besides as the war winds started fuel prices here today passed 5 tl limit (5.06) so it damages our economy everyday..
 
now if you imagine whoever wins the rebel war and if another one starts , syrians will never forget these days..  :(
 
imo  west should have left this problem alone and investigate who used the sarin gas.. honestly it was obvious that rebels used that because they were hopeless against assad , iran and russia.. and after they found who is guily a UN decision must be made ;D   but there are other plans made before and will be put in action.. :-\
 
and what Turkish govt wants.. they want to burry assad alive..
 
but %70-80 of our population have different idea without doubt..
 
 
now , actually most of the middle east countries are not states ..they are petrol owner tribes.. nothing more..  but west draw their borders with ruler and create artifical states to free them from the collapsed ottoman empire..and when they used the ruler they were unaware of the enemy tribes and religous groups inside the lines ;D
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« Reply #84 on: 29 August 2013, 18:07:58 »

An anorak friend told me that Typhoons have been sent from Lincolnshire to Cyprus and last night was "heavy stuff" deploying from bases here in Norfolk. I imagine when he means "heavy" I think he means transport,refuelling and radar planes ??? :-[ :-\
Just heard that Russia is beefing up their hardware in the med as well,all looks iffy :(
My bet is Saturday  :-\

my tenner says sunday ;D  where are other bets ;D ;D
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« Reply #85 on: 29 August 2013, 18:23:21 »

cem. Very interesting.

imo  west should have left this problem alone and investigate who used the sarin gas.. honestly it was obvious that rebels used that because they were hopeless against assad , iran and russia.. and after they found who is guilty a UN decision must be made ;D   but there are other plans made before and will be put in action.

That sounds fine but

UN mandate is only to find if chemical weapons were used! Not who used them.

UN is a toothless organisation and because China and Russia will veto or vote against, the UN won't be able to make any decision. Nothing new there.

I will put 10 euros on Sunday night/Monday morning. If they have to do missile strikes best thing would be to disable both sides inadvertently.
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« Reply #86 on: 29 August 2013, 19:16:12 »

cem. Very interesting.

imo  west should have left this problem alone and investigate who used the sarin gas.. honestly it was obvious that rebels used that because they were hopeless against assad , iran and russia.. and after they found who is guilty a UN decision must be made ;D   but there are other plans made before and will be put in action.

That sounds fine but

UN mandate is only to find if chemical weapons were used! Not who used them.
 
yep.. everyone/every country is well aware of that including syria

UN is a toothless organisation and because China and Russia will veto or vote against, the UN won't be able to make any decision. Nothing new there.
 
yep..

I will put 10 euros on Sunday night/Monday morning. If they have to do missile strikes best thing would be to disable both sides inadvertently.
 
agreed

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« Reply #87 on: 29 August 2013, 22:30:53 »

An anorak friend told me that Typhoons have been sent from Lincolnshire to Cyprus and last night was "heavy stuff" deploying from bases here in Norfolk. I imagine when he means "heavy" I think he means transport,refuelling and radar planes ??? :-[ :-\
Just heard that Russia is beefing up their hardware in the med as well,all looks iffy :(
My bet is Saturday  :-\

No, it'll require a second vote in the Commons which will not take place until early next week. My bet is that Cameron will be defeated. :y
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Re: Syria
« Reply #88 on: 29 August 2013, 22:32:46 »

An anorak friend told me that Typhoons have been sent from Lincolnshire to Cyprus and last night was "heavy stuff" deploying from bases here in Norfolk. I imagine when he means "heavy" I think he means transport,refuelling and radar planes ??? :-[ :-\
Just heard that Russia is beefing up their hardware in the med as well,all looks iffy :(
My bet is Saturday  :-\

No, it'll require a second vote in the Commons which will not take place until early next week. My bet is that Cameron will be defeated. :y

Close though........ ;) ;)
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« Reply #89 on: 29 August 2013, 22:35:33 »

The UK government has lost the vote on Syria by 285 votes to 272

 :y :y

David Cameron says vote shows Parliament does not want military intervention in Syria. “I get that, and the government will act accordingly” :y
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