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[Andy B]

Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.

But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?

the washer bolts to the bottom of the lamp. No idea on the Astra G facelifts 

[chrisgixer]

Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.

But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?

the washer bolts to the bottom of the lamp. No idea on the Astra G facelifts 

(Its an old age thing I guess.)

Mr P. This is the omega forum, you want the chavs forum over on Vauxhall owners

[TheBoy]

....
The bulbs themselves are a piece of cake to change, but you need to take the headlight out,  .....

which on the better looking cars involves removing/dropping the front bumper 

Only on Elites and MFL MV6s

[TheBoy]

Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.

But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?

the washer bolts to the bottom of the lamp. No idea on the Astra G facelifts 

Bumper removal not necessary on the inferior FL models, but its easier with it off...  ...and as it only takes a couple of minutes to remove....

[chrisgixer]

Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.

But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?

the washer bolts to the bottom of the lamp. No idea on the Astra G facelifts 

Bumper removal not necessary on the inferior FL models, but its easier with it off...  ...and as it only takes a couple of minutes to remove....

Its two seconds to get the headlight out, what's wrong with you?

(And a bit of tape to hold the bolt in the socket to refit, admittedly, a hole 5 seconds)

[05omegav6]

Bumper doesn't need to come off on the over complicated older design either (As Robsey MV6 will gladly testify )

On the faaar superior facelift, you don't even need to remove the headlight washer

[TheBoy]

Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.

But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?

the washer bolts to the bottom of the lamp. No idea on the Astra G facelifts 

Bumper removal not necessary on the inferior FL models, but its easier with it off...  ...and as it only takes a couple of minutes to remove....

Its two seconds to get the headlight out, what's wrong with you?

(And a bit of tape to hold the bolt in the socket to refit, admittedly, a hole 5 seconds)

There speaketh somebody who has never had melted headlights

[TheBoy]

Bumper doesn't need to come off on the over complicated older design either (As Robsey MV6 will gladly testify )

On the faaar superior facelift, you don't even need to remove the headlight washer

If you don't want the bumper, or at least prepared to risk the excessive amount of stress you need to put it under....

Mind you, it IS possible to remove the washer from headlight in situ. But its fiddly to remove, and frustrating to put back on. And bumper comes off in 5 mins.

[chrisgixer]

Ffs, the op has a 3.2 elite.

And I'm sure he'd of said if the bloody thing had melted in any way.

[TheBoy]

Ffs, the op has a 3.2 elite.

And I'm sure he'd of said if the bloody thing had melted in any way.

I was replying to Ex Ta, oh never mind.

I'd still take the bumper off. In fact its quicker to remove bumper on inferior FL than superior PFL, due to 4 (or 5 if MFL Elite) less screws, though you do have 2 of those pesky, bodge pins on the inferior FL.

[05omegav6]

You had to remove your bumper anyway, due to said meltedness

[TheBoy]

You had to remove your bumper anyway, due to said meltedness

Not last time I had the headlight out .  I had to remove the bumper because the bottom mount didn't line up with the hole, something I fully appreciated after dropping the bolt into the depths of those Irmscher bumpers that catch everything

[05omegav6]

  longer arms for Christmas then...

[chrisgixer]

Ffs, the op has a 3.2 elite.

And I'm sure he'd of said if the bloody thing had melted in any way.

I was replying to Ex Ta, oh never mind.

I'd still take the bumper off. In fact its quicker to remove bumper on inferior FL than superior PFL, due to 4 (or 5 if MFL Elite) less screws, though you do have 2 of those pesky, bodge pins on the inferior FL.

Yes that doesn't suprise me at all.

[chrisgixer]

But there's no excuse now, you have a 120 piece set and some tape.