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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #15 on: 15 September 2013, 17:36:16 »

see he still hasnt posted his location, i have loads off 2.0 bits here that could of helped him if local to me, bought a complete engine just for the head for a vectra, could of also tried to diagnose problems hes having
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #16 on: 15 September 2013, 20:39:15 »

sorry mate I'm near oldham in manchester hope that helps, I could come down and bring a crate of lager for your troubles!

will bring a mechanic mate of mine to have a look as I have no mechanical knowledge whatsoever and often make things worse!
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #17 on: 15 September 2013, 20:49:44 »

Use a genuine cam sensor when you do the job otherwise you'll be replacing it again sooner rather than later. The genuine ones seem to last approx. 4 years or 40K.
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« Reply #18 on: 15 September 2013, 20:53:01 »

Use a genuine cam sensor when you do the job otherwise you'll be replacing it again sooner rather than later. The genuine ones seem to last approx. 4 years or 40K.

I'd say they last longer than that, I replaced mine in 2007, at around 90k odd. Now at 165k  :)
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #19 on: 15 September 2013, 21:02:27 »

The ecu shows a cam sensor fault. Plain as day. That's the first thing to fix.

As cost are an issue its even more important not to guess the diagnosis.

Fit a GENUINE sensor from vx. Then see how it runs. You'll probably find its sorted. If there's still issues, address those then.

One step at a time Jay. One step at a time. :y
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #20 on: 16 September 2013, 11:48:29 »

I went to the mechanic this morning and asked for his opinion. For a cam sensor it would require removing cambelts and basically dissecting the engine which would be a big and expensive job. He said he would look into parts cost but the big and expensive job bit put me right off. He said he would charge to have the codes read but I told him I knew the problem but said he'd need to look into it anyway.

How much would I be looking for in terms of parts and labour so I know he's not ripping me off. Should I do the leads first to improve the general running first and worry about that later?

Thanks
Jay
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #21 on: 16 September 2013, 12:04:58 »

Having read this guide

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90628.0

It doesn't seem like a big expensive job to me. Hour and a half including tea break is mentioned.

No engine dissection and certainly no cambelt removal.

I'm sure a 4 pot expert will be along soon to confirm.  :y
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #22 on: 16 September 2013, 12:42:19 »

As above, the "expert" is feeding you a load of rubbish and probably trying to take your money as you are a youngster.

It is not even a 30 minute job, and you only have to dismantle as far as the timing cover for acess to the bolt.
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #23 on: 16 September 2013, 13:12:21 »

I went to the mechanic this morning and asked for his opinion. For a cam sensor it would require removing cambelts and basically dissecting the engine which would be a big and expensive job. He said he would look into parts cost but the big and expensive job bit put me right off. He said he would charge to have the codes read but I told him I knew the problem but said he'd need to look into it anyway.

How much would I be looking for in terms of parts and labour so I know he's not ripping me off. Should I do the leads first to improve the general running first and worry about that later?

Thanks
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As above, find another mechanic.
The only belt that needs to come off is the 'fan'/auxiliary belt
You've given him the code ... it's telling you it needs a new cam sensor

What are doing Thursday? I've never done a cam sensor on a four pot, but there doesn't look to much to it, if you fancy a drive to Bury, I'll help you.
« Last Edit: 16 September 2013, 13:14:04 by Andy B »
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #24 on: 16 September 2013, 13:36:56 »

Yup, your mechanic is full of shit I'm afraid :(

Cam sensor on 2.0l is either slightly annoying (if you have to acquire and change the plug) or piss easy. 30mins max, including a cuppa and bacon sarnie, if the plug is the same.
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #25 on: 16 September 2013, 13:46:24 »

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if you have to acquire and change the plug .....

 ???  ??? As I've offered my services ......  please explain
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #26 on: 16 September 2013, 15:43:49 »

I went to the mechanic this morning and asked for his opinion. For a cam sensor it would require removing cambelts and basically dissecting the engine which would be a big and expensive job. He said he would look into parts cost but the big and expensive job bit put me right off. He said he would charge to have the codes read but I told him I knew the problem but said he'd need to look into it anyway.

How much would I be looking for in terms of parts and labour so I know he's not ripping me off. Should I do the leads first to improve the general running first and worry about that later? I have

Thanks
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As above, find another mechanic.
The only belt that needs to come off is the 'fan'/auxiliary belt
You've given him the code ... it's telling you it needs a new cam sensor

What are doing Thursday? I've never done a cam sensor on a four pot, but there doesn't look to much to it, if you fancy a drive to Bury, I'll help you.

Thanks Andy for your much appreciated offer but I have college on Thursday and I don't think the car can handle a trip to bury and never mind the fuel cost, it does about 1 MPG!

I'll try another mechanic later today and see what he thinks. I've traced this part
http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/VAUXHALL_CAMSHAFT_SENSOR_-_90458252N.html  -
at £12 it seems a little cheap but they say genuine on the website. if the job takes 1+1/2 hours how much would a garage be looking to charge me for it? Would they charge half an hours labour? Seems about right if a mechanic is doing the job. I need something to go off when I ask them.

*By the way can anyone find the leads on google. Is it possible that only 1 lead has gone instead of replacing all four? Would this work? If a lead is gone then presumably it runs on three cylinders and if all the leads had gone it probably wouldn't work so I would hypothetically only need to replace one, is this right, ? - sorry I don't know what I'm talking about here is right.


By the way when googling I've found that there are coil packs for x20xev engines as well as leads. Just to double check do I need to replace the coil packs or leads? http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/Omega_Coils___Plug_Leads.html

Thanks
Jay
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #27 on: 16 September 2013, 15:54:32 »

I went to the mechanic this morning and asked for his opinion. For a cam sensor it would require removing cambelts and basically dissecting the engine which would be a big and expensive job. He said he would look into parts cost but the big and expensive job bit put me right off. He said he would charge to have the codes read but I told him I knew the problem but said he'd need to look into it anyway.

How much would I be looking for in terms of parts and labour so I know he's not ripping me off. Should I do the leads first to improve the general running first and worry about that later? I have

Thanks
Jay

As above, find another mechanic.
The only belt that needs to come off is the 'fan'/auxiliary belt
You've given him the code ... it's telling you it needs a new cam sensor

What are doing Thursday? I've never done a cam sensor on a four pot, but there doesn't look to much to it, if you fancy a drive to Bury, I'll help you.

Thanks Andy for your much appreciated offer but I have college on Thursday and I don't think the car can handle a trip to bury and never mind the fuel cost, it does about 1 MPG!

I'll try another mechanic later today and see what he thinks. I've traced this part
http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/VAUXHALL_CAMSHAFT_SENSOR_-_90458252N.html  -
at £12 it seems a little cheap but they say genuine on the website. if the job takes 1+1/2 hours how much would a garage be looking to charge me for it? Would they charge half an hours labour? Seems about right if a mechanic is doing the job. I need something to go off when I ask them.

*By the way can anyone find the leads on google. Is it possible that only 1 lead has gone instead of replacing all four? Would this work? If a lead is gone then presumably it runs on three cylinders and if all the leads had gone it probably wouldn't work so I would hypothetically only need to replace one, is this right, ? - sorry I don't know what I'm talking about here is right.


By the way when googling I've found that there are coil packs for x20xev engines as well as leads. Just to double check do I need to replace the coil packs or leads? http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/Omega_Coils___Plug_Leads.html

Thanks
Jay

Jay
Replace the cam shaft sensor with a real GM/Vauxhall sensor & then go from there! Chances are you won't need HT leads or a DIS pack
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Re: Vauxhall omega bought for £600 with a whole load of problems, HELP!
« Reply #28 on: 17 September 2013, 05:18:08 »

HT leads on the 2.0xev have caused me problems in the past, replace only with Vauxhall or Bosch who make for Vauxhall, failure to do so will incur early failure and extra costs !
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« Reply #29 on: 17 September 2013, 12:35:59 »

This morning the car would start but the accelerator would not work and it was idling and kept turning off. Was late for college!!!!! had to leave it about 10 minutes to warm up but I'd just end up losing power and it would turn off after running rough and making a loud high pitched whining sound. Had to WALK. Yes WALKING was required today.


Anyway I have located a genuine siemens cam sensor on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-OMEGA-VECTRA-CAM-CAMSHAFT-SENSOR-SIEMENS-NEW-/170570838212?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b6d070c4

Please tell me that its the right one as the other £85 are very expensive.

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