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[TheBoy]

..or a Lexus ? You listen to the Dtm too much

If I listened to him, and I should as he is top notch technical, I'd have another bloody Vauxhall 

[chrisgixer]

Or maybe vxr insignia. But again too new?

But Christ its ugly. Dear oh dear.

[TheBoy]

The only other Vauxhall thats not a Holden, that interests me, is the new Astra vxr since they fixed the torque steer.

But guessing too new?

Nah, not interested in an Astra. esp not a VXR (only one worth having anyway), as my back can't take it 

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Vectra VXR/Elite 2.8T V6 

[TheBoy]

Vectra VXR/Elite 2.8T V6 

You're having a giraffe?  Not driven the 2.8, but the 3.2 is way, way, waaaaayyyy too powerful for the chassis's capability. I'd argue that the 1.8 is too powerful.

Again, not driven a VXR one, but the GSi is a spine breaker. I can't do more than about 20 mins in one. Admittedly, its a fun 20mins (in a 3.2), but I couldn't even commute without being in total agony.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Or maybe vxr insignia. But again too new?

But Christ its ugly. Dear oh dear.

That is an understatement if ever I heard one. The Insignia looked like an 'outdated dollop' when It was first introduced, and time has done it no favours whatsoever.

The 'ugly stick' was invented for the sole purpose of beating the crap out of the dog ugly Insignia.

[chrisgixer]

The only other Vauxhall thats not a Holden, that interests me, is the new Astra vxr since they fixed the torque steer.

But guessing too new?

Nah, not interested in an Astra. esp not a VXR (only one worth having anyway), as my back can't take it 

Gay!

[TheBoy]

Or maybe vxr insignia. But again too new?

But Christ its ugly. Dear oh dear.

So indescript, I'm gonna have to google an image, as I can't think what they look like.

VXRs are all likely to be out for me, due to concrete beams for suspension.

That said, I was impressed with how little pain and tiredness I had when driving an Insignia down to SW France over 3 days. Or indeed driving back over a few days, despite a chronic ear infection leading to no sleep and 72hrs of agony. That was a base model though.

[chrisgixer]

Or maybe vxr insignia. But again too new?

But Christ its ugly. Dear oh dear.

That is an understatement if ever I heard one. The Insignia looked like an 'outdated dollop' when It was first introduced, and time has done it no favours whatsoever.

The 'ugly stick' was invented for the sole purpose of beating the crap out of the dog ugly Insignia.

Indeed Lord Opti. what amazes me though, is that they managed to make the vxr option uglier still

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Vectra VXR/Elite 2.8T V6 

You're having a giraffe?  Not driven the 2.8, but the 3.2 is way, way, waaaaayyyy too powerful for the chassis's capability. I'd argue that the 1.8 is too powerful.

Again, not driven a VXR one, but the GSi is a spine breaker. I can't do more than about 20 mins in one. Admittedly, its a fun 20mins (in a 3.2), but I couldn't even commute without being in total agony.

I Like the look of the FL C Vectra especially VXR, Haven't driven one, But was in a Taxi Vectra C few years back it was uncomfortable (in the back) and full of nasty plastic although i think it was the "Club" spec...


There isn't much else left in the VX line up then apart from another Omega. or Monaro, VXR8, Both big V8 though not for everyone these days.

[TheBoy]

Or maybe vxr insignia. But again too new?

But Christ its ugly. Dear oh dear.

Oh jeez, yes, errr, I see what you mean. What is that all about?

[TheBoy]

There isn't much else left in the VX line up then

Hence my conclusion on the first post

[TheBoy]

I Like the look of the FL C Vectra especially VXR, Haven't driven one,

Based on my experiences driving GSi's, if you get a chance, do so. I can only imagine that the 2.8 is even more of a hoot than the 3.2.  But, boy, does the front end not respond well.

[chrisgixer]

While Mr Clarkson is so totally Ford biased that its pointless mentioning his pov on Vauxhall, it has to be said that the footage of the Vectras catastrophic under steer on top gear has to be seen to be believed.

Somewhat renowned you might say.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

I Like the look of the FL C Vectra especially VXR, Haven't driven one,

Based on my experiences driving GSi's, if you get a chance, do so. I can only imagine that the 2.8 is even more of a hoot than the 3.2.  But, boy, does the front end not respond well.

Came close around 18 months ago saw a 2003 "53" 3.2 GSi around £1200 sold before i got the chance sure it was a manual as well