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[05omegav6]

Oh they did 2.8 full monty and 3.0 diseasel, 2.8 makes a plod Omega feel slow, nearly bought one, but my insurers wouldn't touch it

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Oh they did 2.8 full monty and 3.0 diseasel, 2.8 makes a plod Omega feel slow, nearly bought one, but my insurers wouldn't touch it

Plus expensive TAX on them 

[Andy H]

While Mr Clarkson is so totally Ford biased that its pointless mentioning his pov on Vauxhall, it has to be said that the footage of the Vectras catastrophic under steer on top gear has to be seen to be believed.

Somewhat renowned you might say.

Yep they are so shit that the police didn't use them,or did they

henryd - Am I right in thinking that the Signum is basically a Vectra C with a higher centre of gravity? How does it handle?

[henryd]

Oh they did 2.8 full monty and 3.0 diseasel, 2.8 makes a plod Omega feel slow, nearly bought one, but my insurers wouldn't touch it

Presuming its the same diseasel that my Signum has,bet it's quick in manual format,my auto doesn't hang about

[05omegav6]

Signum is EXACTLY a four seat Vectra C estate with a small(ish) boot

[henryd]

While Mr Clarkson is so totally Ford biased that its pointless mentioning his pov on Vauxhall, it has to be said that the footage of the Vectras catastrophic under steer on top gear has to be seen to be believed.

Somewhat renowned you might say.

Yep they are so shit that the police didn't use them,or did they

henryd - Am I right in thinking that the Signum is basically a Vectra C with a higher centre of gravity? How does it handle?

Surprisingly well,it rides lower than a standard Veccy, and the v6 oiler up front keeps that on the road,seriously  though it will out handle my old mig estate but that was the Elite so weren't great anyway.

[symes]

I wouldn't get another vx only liked migs/carltons and now their newer stuff is not my cup of tea and dont even mention monaro cos thats Holden not VX There is nothing inVX range I actually like

[henryd]

Signum is EXACTLY a four seat Vectra C estate with a small(ish) boot

That does about sum it up Al, it's certainly not a thing of beauty,however I've had it nearly a year and 10k miles and the only reason the bonnet has been lifted has been to top up the washer fluid so I can live with its flaws

[05omegav6]

For all its handling quirks, I have found the early facelift 1.8s to be pretty bombproof

Dropping the diseasel V6 into an Omega is on my 'That would be nice' list. The four pot diseasel is best avoided imhe had a crap one and would never buy another...

[henryd]

For all its handling quirks, I have found the early facelift 1.8s to be pretty bombproof

Dropping the diseasel V6 into an Omega is on my 'That would be nice' list. The four pot diseasel is best avoided imhe had a crap one and would never buy another...

An omega with that Isuzu v6 under t'bonnet would make lovely car imho 

[Auto Addict]

Having owned an Insignia for nearly twelve months now, and still loving it, I couldn't possibly comment

[Webby the Bear]

Fords are most definitely the way forward. Reliable and very easy to work on.

However if you can't get on with them may I suggest something from the Kia range..... that Sportage looks fantastic.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Here is your challenge.

You like some go, ALL front wheel drive cars with 'go' have stiff chassis's, its the only way the torque can be put on the road (the rules of physics are difficult to beat) be it Audi, Gm, Ford the lot.

So your either looking at AWD or RWD or having to compromise on a stiffer setup in FWD format.

Thinking similar sizes, the A4 you will hate, the handling is naff and there dead small inside, the Passat is the same car. The Mondeo is a good car but, they dont age well, the Insignia is an aquired taste, good all round and nicely screwed together but the looks for some are questionable (although there are MUCH worse cars out there!). French stuff as we know is hit and miss.

The Chrysler you will wrap round a tree within a month, they really dont do corners and are akin to a whale with an outboard motor.

On Mr Clarksons understeer in the Vec C, if you drive and steer like they did in that clip, you could make anything understeer, the Vec C is actualy not nearly as bad a chassis as many make out, if they had done the sama in an Alfa (one of the best FWD setups out there) the result would have been the same (they applied fast excessive steering input to unstick the front wheel before straightening the steering up)

Then you get into your favourites such as Merc and BMW.

[henryd]

Here is your challenge.

You like some go, ALL front wheel drive cars with 'go' have stiff chassis's, its the only way the torque can be put on the road (the rules of physics are difficult to beat) be it Audi, Gm, Ford the lot.

So your either looking at AWD or RWD or having to compromise on a stiffer setup in FWD format.

Thinking similar sizes, the A4 you will hate, the handling is naff and there dead small inside, the Passat is the same car. The Mondeo is a good car but, they dont age well, the Insignia is an aquired taste, good all round and nicely screwed together but the looks for some are questionable (although there are MUCH worse cars out there!). French stuff as we know is hit and miss.

The Chrysler you will wrap round a tree within a month, they really dont do corners and are akin to a whale with an outboard motor.

On Mr Clarksons understeer in the Vec C,u if you drive and steer like they did in that clip, you could make anything ndersteer, the Vec C is actualy not nearly as bad a chassis as many make out, if they had done the sama in an Alfa (one of the best FWD setups out there) the result would have been the same (they applied fast excessive steering input to unstick the front wheel before straightening the steering up)

Then you get into your favourites such as Merc and BMW.

I agree,they set out to knock that car from the start

[chrisgixer]

I do warm to Mercedes with their tyre testing and numerous Mo approved tyres.

But their front steering geometry is woefull on some models, so another nine field there. None adjustable camber and huge castor angles. Although I gather there are aftermarket solutions for camber.

Oh, and I find the seat bases very unsupportive on the Mercs I've been in. Nothing to hold your legs up at seems.

If it had to be German, its the least irritating badge too.