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Computer savvy???? HELP...
« on: 20 September 2013, 22:06:44 »

Starting up tonight I get a message.. 'Windows Virtual Memory Minimum too low' Followed by the usual Windows blurb.. Eh! What the heck is that, what does it mean?? NOT being computer savvy I checked my RAM not my VM. RAM=17Gb Free. Hmmm, not that then. No programs have been downloaded for ages so what is using up my memory? I'll check task Manager. Hmmm! ESET is using 97,912k memory usage and 111,044 Virtual memory... Hang on, why are there 2 iexplor.exe running? The younger one of the two is running 16,640k memory usage and 21,012k vitual. BUT the other one is using 487,716k memory and 1,227,375k virtual???? I only have one window open as not good at multitasking... :( What is going on???  :o 
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #1 on: 20 September 2013, 22:11:12 »

No idea what causes it, but a reboot and installing mozilla firefox to use instead of explorer should fix it.
 
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #2 on: 20 September 2013, 22:39:39 »

many explorer add ons are unsafe and when they work for relatively longer time they suck memory..

close and open it.. and disable your unused add ons..

ps: virus scanners also use add ons on ie which mostly causes problems..
« Last Edit: 20 September 2013, 22:41:23 by cem »
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #3 on: 21 September 2013, 09:40:25 »

No idea what causes it, but a reboot and installing mozilla firefox to use instead of explorer should fix it.
The reboot will. FF wont.
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #4 on: 21 September 2013, 10:56:17 »

Virtual memory is space on the hard disk reserved to allow the operating system to swap out stuff you aren't using in the computers real memory (RAM) to make space for stuff you are using. If you don't reboot the PC for a while you can accumulate gigabytes of cruft that you will never need (but the operating system doesn't know that). Rebooting wipes the RAM and the problem goes away until the next time you fill up the real and virtual memory.

IIRC windows will offer to increase the size of the virtual memory if it needs to but you might then run out of space on the hard disk.
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« Reply #5 on: 21 September 2013, 13:08:37 »

No idea what causes it, but a reboot and installing mozilla firefox to use instead of explorer should fix it.
The reboot will. FF wont.

? I'm genuinely interested in the above.
In my experience - six computers in the office, all same-ish spec - the ones which run IE need rebooting to fix this problem about once a month/six weeks. The FF ones, about once every six months
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« Reply #6 on: 21 September 2013, 15:05:41 »

No idea what causes it, but a reboot and installing mozilla firefox to use instead of explorer should fix it.
The reboot will. FF wont.

? I'm genuinely interested in the above.
In my experience - six computers in the office, all same-ish spec - the ones which run IE need rebooting to fix this problem about once a month/six weeks. The FF ones, about once every six months
Once a month is worth it for the extra security. I'm no expert, but those that are tell me that firefox is full of holes.
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #7 on: 21 September 2013, 15:52:51 »

No idea what causes it, but a reboot and installing mozilla firefox to use instead of explorer should fix it.
The reboot will. FF wont.

? I'm genuinely interested in the above.
In my experience - six computers in the office, all same-ish spec - the ones which run IE need rebooting to fix this problem about once a month/six weeks. The FF ones, about once every six months
Well, something wrong with your IT manager then, as they should get monthly patch updates, which invariably require a reboot.  Also, I'd like to think that any IT manager knows that FF itself needs updating very regularly, due to suffering all the same security flaws that plagued IE years ago.

IE is pretty rock solid - as is FF, apart from its lack of maturity - and not known to be a resource hog.  However, like other browsers, plugins are not under the control of the browser vendor, but do run under the same process. 99.9% of the time, when a browser process starts to hog resources, its due to a plugin.

If you have an IE process misbehaving, check the plugins, or simply uninstall them. If your IT manager is stupid enough to allow the users to run with Admin rights, there will likely be all manner of crap firing up. Nobody, the IT manager included, should be running with Admin rights. In addition, check for any shell extensions, as many of these frequently make use of IE.
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #8 on: 21 September 2013, 16:53:17 »

No idea what causes it, but a reboot and installing mozilla firefox to use instead of explorer should fix it.
The reboot will. FF wont.

? I'm genuinely interested in the above.
In my experience - six computers in the office, all same-ish spec - the ones which run IE need rebooting to fix this problem about once a month/six weeks. The FF ones, about once every six months
Well, something wrong with your IT manager then, as they should get monthly patch updates, which invariably require a reboot.  Also, I'd like to think that any IT manager knows that FF itself needs updating very regularly, due to suffering all the same security flaws that plagued IE years ago.

That's me  ::)

FF updates automagically.
IE is not set to update.
cos if it works, why mess with it.  ::)

probably why IE doesn't work properly  ::)
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #9 on: 21 September 2013, 17:03:18 »

Doesn't windows/microsoft update push out updates for IE by default?

I only boot my laptop in windows very occasionally and always regret it due to the time (and number of reboots) it requires (to apply the updates that have been released since I last used it) but there is no way I would run windows unpatched.
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #10 on: 21 September 2013, 18:42:27 »

Doesn't windows/microsoft update push out updates for IE by default?
Yup, integrated into Windows Update, so hit on the 2nd Tuesday of every month if there are patches for it.  Probably the primary reason I'd recommend IE over anything else on supported Windows. The other primary reason is that Microsoft cleaned up their act years ago when it comes to lazy programming, FF and Chrome are still very much playing catch-up.
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #11 on: 21 September 2013, 18:43:57 »

No idea what causes it, but a reboot and installing mozilla firefox to use instead of explorer should fix it.
The reboot will. FF wont.

? I'm genuinely interested in the above.
In my experience - six computers in the office, all same-ish spec - the ones which run IE need rebooting to fix this problem about once a month/six weeks. The FF ones, about once every six months
Well, something wrong with your IT manager then, as they should get monthly patch updates, which invariably require a reboot.  Also, I'd like to think that any IT manager knows that FF itself needs updating very regularly, due to suffering all the same security flaws that plagued IE years ago.

That's me  ::)

FF updates automagically.
IE is not set to update.
cos if it works, why mess with it.  ::)

probably why IE doesn't work properly  ::)
Oh dear. I need to find a brick wall, its high time I gave myself another headache...

Please tell me you don't run with Admin privileges. Please. With a cherry on top.
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #12 on: 21 September 2013, 18:57:18 »

No idea what causes it, but a reboot and installing mozilla firefox to use instead of explorer should fix it.
The reboot will. FF wont.

? I'm genuinely interested in the above.
In my experience - six computers in the office, all same-ish spec - the ones which run IE need rebooting to fix this problem about once a month/six weeks. The FF ones, about once every six months
Well, something wrong with your IT manager then, as they should get monthly patch updates, which invariably require a reboot.  Also, I'd like to think that any IT manager knows that FF itself needs updating very regularly, due to suffering all the same security flaws that plagued IE years ago.

That's me  ::)

FF updates automagically.
IE is not set to update.
cos if it works, why mess with it.  ::)

probably why IE doesn't work properly  ::)
Oh dear. I need to find a brick wall, its high time I gave myself another headache...

Please tell me you don't run with Admin privileges. Please. With a cherry on top.



Everyone knows Tb, that you have to, if your a bloke  ;)
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Re: Computer savvy???? HELP...
« Reply #13 on: 21 September 2013, 19:04:36 »

No idea what causes it, but a reboot and installing mozilla firefox to use instead of explorer should fix it.
The reboot will. FF wont.

? I'm genuinely interested in the above.
In my experience - six computers in the office, all same-ish spec - the ones which run IE need rebooting to fix this problem about once a month/six weeks. The FF ones, about once every six months
Well, something wrong with your IT manager then, as they should get monthly patch updates, which invariably require a reboot.  Also, I'd like to think that any IT manager knows that FF itself needs updating very regularly, due to suffering all the same security flaws that plagued IE years ago.

That's me  ::)

FF updates automagically.
IE is not set to update.
cos if it works, why mess with it.  ::)

probably why IE doesn't work properly  ::)
Oh dear. I need to find a brick wall, its high time I gave myself another headache...

Please tell me you don't run with Admin privileges. Please. With a cherry on top.



Everyone knows Tb, that you have to, if your a bloke  ;)
Less critical on Vista and later, I guess, as long as you leave UAC alone.

But my point was running without Windows Update, and running all Internet facing services that could be exploited with superuser priviledges, thats suicide.
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« Reply #14 on: 21 September 2013, 19:58:24 »

In normal, day-to-day usage, I just can't see the need. I haven't logged on as an admin for about two years. On win7 you get asked for your password to update/download anything that's out of the ordinary......so why use (and let everyone else use) admin privileges?
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