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MR MISTER

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BT fibre optic question
« on: 24 September 2013, 15:51:46 »

Today some workmen came and removed the cab at the end of our road, so I presume everything is now routed through the new 'infinity' cab they placed at the other side of the road.
So, when you take up infinity fibre thingy, does the optic cable run to your residence or just from the nearest cab back to the exchange?
And, if the cable back to the exchange is fibre optic, then everyone must be connected to it (as i cant see the point in running a copper cable as well), so what is limiting your bb speed if you are on a fibre cable?
That's enough, getting a headache now.
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Re: BT fibre optic question
« Reply #1 on: 24 September 2013, 15:55:08 »

No Steve, BT leave the current copper cable to relay the signals from that (fibre optic) cabinet  in the road into your property. :) :)

I was told by an Open Reach engineer that to run fibre optic cable into my property would cost £20,000! ::) ::) ::) ;)
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MR MISTER

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« Reply #2 on: 24 September 2013, 15:56:09 »

No Steve, BT leave the current copper cable to relay the signals from that (fibre optic) cabinet  in the road into your property. :) :)
Yeah...but from the cab to the exchange?
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« Reply #3 on: 24 September 2013, 15:57:13 »

No Steve, BT leave the current copper cable to relay the signals from that (fibre optic) cabinet  in the road into your property. :) :)
Yeah...but from the cab to the exchange?

As I understand that will now be fibre optic cable ;)
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MR MISTER

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« Reply #4 on: 24 September 2013, 16:00:57 »

No Steve, BT leave the current copper cable to relay the signals from that (fibre optic) cabinet  in the road into your property. :) :)
Yeah...but from the cab to the exchange?

As I understand that will now be fibre optic cable ;)
Well thats what I said then, isn't it? ;D
So whether you subscribe to fibre or not, you get a copper pair from your house, via a DP, to the cab and
then fibre to the exchange. What limits your bb speed?
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Re: BT fibre optic question
« Reply #5 on: 24 September 2013, 16:10:03 »

The problem with copper transmission is attenuation, the longer distance you transmit the more the signal degrades.  How much varies with the quality of the copper, the quality of the instllation and any external RF interferance.

Fibre does not suffer the same speed/distance issues but it is expensive to lay, thus to save costs a lot of installations take fibre to the cabinet (FTTC) and copper to the house improving the overall speed to the residence.  If your connection to the cab is poor then you will get an improvement but not as good as it could be.
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Re: BT fibre optic question
« Reply #6 on: 24 September 2013, 17:01:44 »

No Steve, BT leave the current copper cable to relay the signals from that (fibre optic) cabinet  in the road into your property. :) :)

I was told by an Open Reach engineer that to run fibre optic cable into my property would cost £20,000! ::) ::) ::) ;)

And hence why there not real engineers with statements like that!
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Re: BT fibre optic question
« Reply #7 on: 24 September 2013, 17:03:58 »

Fibre does not suffer the same speed/distance

Oh yes it does and it costs about the same as cable to install plus can carry a monsterous bandwidth.
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Re: BT fibre optic question
« Reply #8 on: 24 September 2013, 17:30:34 »

Infinity & Infinity 2 (38Mb & 76Mb) are FTTC - Fibre To The Cab (and copper to your house, but nobody shouts about that bit) - speed limited by the distance from your house to the cab plus cable type, number of splices, quality of joints etc.

Ultrafast Infinity (up to 330Mb) is FTTP - Fibre To The Premise zero copper involved* but is only available at a limited number of trial sites (some new housing developments are being cabled for this at build time - a colleague here at work has it, in fact).

*Until it turns into Ethernet in your house, of course, and within the various bits of electronic kit along the line, before anyone gets pedantic ;D

Ultrafast - http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/broadband/faster-internet
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Re: BT fibre optic question
« Reply #9 on: 24 September 2013, 18:00:25 »

If you don't take infinity your still on copper to the exchange.

If you buy infinity they jumper your house to cabinet copper over to the fibre cabinet so you get faster speed :-)
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Re: BT fibre optic question
« Reply #10 on: 24 September 2013, 18:20:32 »

If you don't take infinity your still on copper to the exchange.

If you buy infinity they jumper your house to cabinet copper over to the fibre cabinet so you get faster speed :-)

That would make sense ...if the OP hadn't have written

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Today some workmen came and removed the cab at the end of our road

which is the essence of his question ......    :)

In simple terms .."if the copper cabinet has been removed, what is now limiting my speed" ..  :)
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« Reply #11 on: 24 September 2013, 18:23:11 »

So if you want fast there is only Virgin ?
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Re: BT fibre optic question
« Reply #12 on: 24 September 2013, 18:27:39 »

If you don't take infinity your still on copper to the exchange.

If you buy infinity they jumper your house to cabinet copper over to the fibre cabinet so you get faster speed :-)

That would make sense ...if the OP hadn't have written

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Today some workmen came and removed the cab at the end of our road

which is the essence of his question ......    :)

In simple terms .."if the copper cabinet has been removed, what is now limiting my speed" ..  :)

A man in the exchange with a row of knobs......you dont pay for speed, knob get turned to slow......you pay, knob get turned to fast  ;) :)
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Re: BT fibre optic question
« Reply #13 on: 24 September 2013, 18:29:10 »

If you don't take infinity your still on copper to the exchange.

If you buy infinity they jumper your house to cabinet copper over to the fibre cabinet so you get faster speed :-)

That would make sense ...if the OP hadn't have written

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Today some workmen came and removed the cab at the end of our road

which is the essence of his question ......    :)

In simple terms .."if the copper cabinet has been removed, what is now limiting my speed" ..  :)

From what I can gather - a different router + what TaxiDriver said.
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Re: BT fibre optic question
« Reply #14 on: 24 September 2013, 18:31:04 »

If the copper cabinet has been removed then the copper will have been moved to the new cabinet and still be used unless you buy FTC.

They can't remove the copper as it is needed for the phone line part even with FTC - you can't have a fixed line that stops working when the power goes off (it would if using the FTC).

Steve
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