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[pscocoa]

My 3 year old grandson fell at pre school. They phoned my daughter to pick him up advising of bloody nose and to get him checked out. She doesn't think it is broken but not sure so phones doctors. At 10.30am this morning doctor's reception advises " we have no emergency appointments til 4pm". Yes but I just want you to take a quick look. No!!

So she was in dilemma and has ended up going to A&E due to pathetic service from GP.

Now she is sat  in a & e with a 3 year old.

[MR MISTER]

We received a flyer from our new gp-led commissioning group yesterday. When I read some of the outrageous promises, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

[chrisgixer]

As I've said before, don't bother with the GP.

Straight to A+E

[pscocoa]

Chris - but this is my point - grandson is now on way home having been seen by Observation Team and then in a cubicle occupying a bed for 30 minutes to see a doctor who has ok'd him but not a lot more they can do until swelling goes down. GP could have done this if better organised.

[albitz]

It seems to be common policy now for many GP surgeries to send people straight to A&E. I would imagine the way the system is set up now means that theres no money in it for them,and many of them seem to be very motivated by money these days.

[aaronjb]

It seems to be common policy now for many GP surgeries to send people straight to A&E. I would imagine the way the system is set up now means that theres no money in it for them,and many of them seem to be very motivated by money these days.

That or the polar opposite.. (in the case of my OH's gran) four months of "It's just a torn muscle" from the GP before they schedule an MRI and then, the day after the scan, the femur snaps due to advanced bone cancer that really should have been caught months ago.

Heck, go look up "bone pain" on the NHS website and it says if it lasts more than three days Cancer needs to be ruled out post haste!

 

[Gaffers]

It seems to be common policy now for many GP surgeries to send people straight to A&E. I would imagine the way the system is set up now means that theres no money in it for them,and many of them seem to be very motivated by money these days.

That or the polar opposite.. (in the case of my OH's gran) four months of "It's just a torn muscle" from the GP before they schedule an MRI and then, the day after the scan, the femur snaps due to advanced bone cancer that really should have been caught months ago.

Heck, go look up "bone pain" on the NHS website and it says if it lasts more than three days Cancer needs to be ruled out post haste!

 

It took the NHS 3 years to diagnose my crohn's...2.7 years of which was farting around with GPs doing tests.

[aaronjb]

It seems to be common policy now for many GP surgeries to send people straight to A&E. I would imagine the way the system is set up now means that theres no money in it for them,and many of them seem to be very motivated by money these days.

That or the polar opposite.. (in the case of my OH's gran) four months of "It's just a torn muscle" from the GP before they schedule an MRI and then, the day after the scan, the femur snaps due to advanced bone cancer that really should have been caught months ago.

Heck, go look up "bone pain" on the NHS website and it says if it lasts more than three days Cancer needs to be ruled out post haste!

 

It took the NHS 3 years to diagnose my crohn's...2.7 years of which was farting around with GPs doing tests.

I shouldn't laugh .. but I'm afraid that choice of words did raise a chuckle!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

My 3 year old grandson fell at pre school. They phoned my daughter to pick him up advising of bloody nose and to get him checked out. She doesn't think it is broken but not sure so phones doctors. At 10.30am this morning doctor's reception advises " we have no emergency appointments til 4pm". Yes but I just want you to take a quick look. No!!

So she was in dilemma and has ended up going to A&E due to pathetic service from GP.

Now she is sat  in a & e with a 3 year old.

If a child requires urgent treatment you just go to your GP and demand that they are seen, which is the child's right, and your right.  You stay in the reception area until you see the doctor, and if met by an "over bearing, self important" receptionist who argues that there are no appointments, you continue to demand that you see a doctor, and even inquire if other patients have any objections to your young child being seen before them! 

Having been in this position before on a number of occasions , I know this works and as necessary you can also add when talking to the receptionist that the NHS expects young children to be seen immediately in such circumstances and if the child suffers any relapse you will hold them personally, and legally, responsible. 

Once a doctor, instead of the mere opinionated receptionist gets to hear of your protestations, you WILL be seen without further delay!

This may all cause unpleasantness at the time, but when it comes down to the medical safety of a young child, anything goes!

Yes, this case highlights how the system with GP's and A&E's is going wrong, but if we the taxpayers, who pay the NHS staff their wages and have a right to be treated appropriately, especially when it comes to young children, put our foot down then the situation will eventually change.  Do not put up with a shoddy service.

[Gaffers]

It seems to be common policy now for many GP surgeries to send people straight to A&E. I would imagine the way the system is set up now means that theres no money in it for them,and many of them seem to be very motivated by money these days.

That or the polar opposite.. (in the case of my OH's gran) four months of "It's just a torn muscle" from the GP before they schedule an MRI and then, the day after the scan, the femur snaps due to advanced bone cancer that really should have been caught months ago.

Heck, go look up "bone pain" on the NHS website and it says if it lasts more than three days Cancer needs to be ruled out post haste!

 

It took the NHS 3 years to diagnose my crohn's...2.7 years of which was farting around with GPs doing tests.

I shouldn't laugh .. but I'm afraid that choice of words did raise a chuckle!

Deliberate pun

[pscocoa]

My 3 year old grandson fell at pre school. They phoned my daughter to pick him up advising of bloody nose and to get him checked out. She doesn't think it is broken but not sure so phones doctors. At 10.30am this morning doctor's reception advises " we have no emergency appointments til 4pm". Yes but I just want you to take a quick look. No!!

So she was in dilemma and has ended up going to A&E due to pathetic service from GP.

Now she is sat  in a & e with a 3 year old.

If a child requires urgent treatment you just go to your GP and demand that they are seen, which is the child's right, and your right.  You stay in the reception area until you see the doctor, and if met by an "over bearing, self important" receptionist who argues that there are no appointments, you continue to demand that you see a doctor, and even inquire if other patients have any objections to your young child being seen before them! 

Having been in this position before on a number of occasions , I know this works and as necessary you can also add when talking to the receptionist that the NHS expects young children to be seen immediately in such circumstances and if the child suffers any relapse you will hold them personally, and legally, responsible. 

Once a doctor, instead of the mere opinionated receptionist gets to hear of your protestations, you WILL be seen without further delay!

This may all cause unpleasantness at the time, but when it comes down to the medical safety of a young child, anything goes!

Yes, this case highlights how the system with GP's and A&E's is going wrong, but if we the taxpayers, who pay the NHS staff their wages and have a right to be treated appropriately, especially when it comes to young children, put our foot down then the situation will eventually change.  Do not put up with a shoddy service.

Brilliant input Lizzie. I think we should follow up with something along these lines - thank you.

[chrisgixer]

Chris - but this is my point - grandson is now on way home having been seen by Observation Team and then in a cubicle occupying a bed for 30 minutes to see a doctor who has ok'd him but not a lot more they can do until swelling goes down. GP could have done this if better organised.

Yes, and my point is, management live in an alternate universe. One where their magic wand changes reality into their flight full fancy of the moment since they last changed their under wear.

Reality is, go to A+E and you'll be seen. But go to the Gp, where they say your supposed to go, and they can't/won't see the patient, giving you two alternatives. Don't bother, or.... 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

My 3 year old grandson fell at pre school. They phoned my daughter to pick him up advising of bloody nose and to get him checked out. She doesn't think it is broken but not sure so phones doctors. At 10.30am this morning doctor's reception advises " we have no emergency appointments til 4pm". Yes but I just want you to take a quick look. No!!

So she was in dilemma and has ended up going to A&E due to pathetic service from GP.

Now she is sat  in a & e with a 3 year old.

If a child requires urgent treatment you just go to your GP and demand that they are seen, which is the child's right, and your right.  You stay in the reception area until you see the doctor, and if met by an "over bearing, self important" receptionist who argues that there are no appointments, you continue to demand that you see a doctor, and even inquire if other patients have any objections to your young child being seen before them! 

Having been in this position before on a number of occasions , I know this works and as necessary you can also add when talking to the receptionist that the NHS expects young children to be seen immediately in such circumstances and if the child suffers any relapse you will hold them personally, and legally, responsible. 

Once a doctor, instead of the mere opinionated receptionist gets to hear of your protestations, you WILL be seen without further delay!

This may all cause unpleasantness at the time, but when it comes down to the medical safety of a young child, anything goes!

Yes, this case highlights how the system with GP's and A&E's is going wrong, but if we the taxpayers, who pay the NHS staff their wages and have a right to be treated appropriately, especially when it comes to young children, put our foot down then the situation will eventually change.  Do not put up with a shoddy service.

Brilliant input Lizzie. I think we should follow up with something along these lines - thank you.

Thanks, and I repeat it does work!

[MR MISTER]

In our surgery, there is a notice that says that the doctor(s) may be delayed if an emergency arises.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

In our surgery, there is a notice that says that the doctor(s) may be delayed if an emergency arises.

Exactly Steve!

That is what the NHS demands of it's GP's, and in particular when a young child is involved.