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Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« on: 29 September 2013, 06:02:50 »

I fitted a new exhaust to my car yesterday. The old one was 3 ½ years old and was from Eternal. It had been really very good, nice and quiet with none of the booming you get from other pattern exhausts. The joint between the back box and one of the pipes had rotted through but otherwise the rest of the exhaust was still in pretty good shape. Eternal don’t supply these any more so my new one was from eBay, cost £91 delivered from Poland and when it arrived it was obvious it was by the same manufacturer so I was quite pleased.

Out of curiosity I decided to get my angle grinder out to cut up the old exhaust and find out what is inside those boxes.

First the back box. Exhaust gases go left to right. It was much harder to cut through the steel case which was double skinned and about 5mm thick than I expected.  Wadding was in both ends and you can see the baffle pipes sticking into the box which are the pipes with holes drilled in them.



Next the middle box. Exhaust gases go left to right. Once again, it took a determined effort to get into this box and it was much harder to cut through than I expected. Double skinned steel again and about 5mm thick. Lifting the outer double skin revealed a layer of wadding which I moved out of the way to find the case of an inner chamber. I cut through this which was also 5mm and double skinned to see what was inside.



This pipe baffle you can see below is on the inlet side. It points into free space inside the chamber.



By now I had run out of enthusiasm for cutting another hole in the outlet side but peeking through the hole I had already cut, I could see a straight baffle pipe. So because the inlet and outlet baffle pipes are not aligned, the gases swirl around inside this inner chamber before exiting. There is also more wadding at each end. So now you know!
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #1 on: 29 September 2013, 08:51:23 »

chrisgixer and I cut some open, can't remember if is was the noisy no-name off mine, or from his. They were in much worse condition, with the baffle pipes rusted through.

I think chrisgixer posted up the pics somewhere, although I know we run out of cutting discs doing it ;D
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #2 on: 29 September 2013, 11:58:52 »

Yeah, buggered if I can find the link though. :(
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #3 on: 29 September 2013, 12:03:05 »

Ah, that sound deadening material is currently making a bid for freedom out of the back box of my 2.6  ;D
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #4 on: 29 September 2013, 14:53:05 »

Watch out it doesn't block the exhaust I think that's what made my EGR leak and may have blown my cam gasket, all happened at about the same time on my last mig.
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #5 on: 29 September 2013, 16:50:21 »

Nice neat cuts , mine cuts were all over the place  ;D Center baffle was all collapsed and rotten in mine  :(
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #6 on: 29 September 2013, 17:30:22 »

Watch out it doesn't block the exhaust I think that's what made my EGR leak and may have blown my cam gasket, all happened at about the same time on my last mig.

Yeh, I pull it out when it appears! I've got an ETS system en route to me as I type, just hope to find enough time to fit it next weekend...
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #7 on: 29 September 2013, 19:41:28 »

Watch out it doesn't block the exhaust I think that's what made my EGR leak and may have blown my cam gasket, all happened at about the same time on my last mig.
How does that happen  :-\
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #8 on: 29 September 2013, 20:09:19 »

Watch out it doesn't block the exhaust I think that's what made my EGR leak and may have blown my cam gasket, all happened at about the same time on my last mig.
How does that happen  :-\
I think dbdb is suggesting the blocked exhaust backed up through the egr and pressurised the crank case.
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #9 on: 29 September 2013, 20:33:14 »

Watch out it doesn't block the exhaust I think that's what made my EGR leak and may have blown my cam gasket, all happened at about the same time on my last mig.
How does that happen  :-\
I think dbdb is suggesting the blocked exhaust backed up through the egr and pressurised the crank case.
Ah, past the piston rings? Gotcha. Would have thought the whole thing would stopped before then?
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #10 on: 29 September 2013, 20:40:42 »

And back up the breathers.
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #11 on: 29 September 2013, 21:07:21 »

Watch out it doesn't block the exhaust I think that's what made my EGR leak and may have blown my cam gasket, all happened at about the same time on my last mig.
How does that happen  :-\
Magic ???
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #12 on: 29 September 2013, 21:13:26 »

So they look like they're built like tanks but rot like cheese......  :-\
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #13 on: 29 September 2013, 21:16:41 »

So they look like they're built like tanks but rot like cheese......  :-\

My s/s system hasn't rotted  ::) ::)
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Re: Ever wondered what's inside your exhaust boxes?
« Reply #14 on: 30 September 2013, 08:39:56 »

So they look like they're built like tanks but rot like cheese......  :-\
By the nature of exhausts, they rot from the inside, which is why they tend to look good and solid, then just fail almost overnight...
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