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[Marks DTM Calib]

Im sure the Brits could do it at least as well,but they couldn't be paid in bowls of rice, and dog meat.

We haven't the skills to build anything like that anymore sadly 

We do actualy, dont beleave everything you see in the press.

In reality its a pretty simple and basic ship, nothing clever about it (possibly DP2, maybe 3)....now naval vessels,they are complex and we still build them.

[tunnie]

Im sure the Brits could do it at least as well,but they couldn't be paid in bowls of rice, and dog meat.

We haven't the skills to build anything like that anymore sadly 

We do actualy, dont beleave everything you see in the press.

In reality its a pretty simple and basic ship, nothing clever about it (possibly DP2, maybe 3)....now naval vessels,they are complex and we still build them.

Yup, Type 45's - Hell of a lot more goes into them, rather than a glorified lorry 

[Marks DTM Calib]

The submarines are possibly the pinacle of complexity and design (and the Vanguard class is 150m long which is chuffing huge for such things when you consider the titanic was 270m)

[Mr Skrunts]

Pretty sure theres something on one of the sat TV channels at the moment regarding the building of it.....

There was and it was quite impressive,.  I agree with mark, we could build them in this country, lets face it we were once the world's best ship builders, and after looking at the way ships are built these days they are just loads of pre made box units all fitted and welded together, the only difference's are the type of ship they become and levels of equipment, oh yes and the SHEER SIZE of them. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Pretty good at ship building are the Koreans

My mate works for one of the big oil and gas companies in shipping and spends quite a lot of time in Korea at the shipyards. He must like dogmeat! 

Snap but I seem to be spending time in China and Brasil at the moment!

My mate also goes to China quite a lot.  He does quality control spot checks and by all accounts causes quite a kerfuffle when he shows up!  Apparently Chinese welding isn't great!!    An opening for Gixer perhaps? 

[Marks DTM Calib]

There constructed from Mega blocks, which are then welded together, the Mega blocks can be built anywhere (for example, we have some mega blocks being built in japan, then shipped to Brasil for assembly into drill ships).

Usualy major components are installed in the Mega blocks during assembly such as Gen-sets, motors, thrusters, switchboards, pumps, major pipe runs etc etc.

Once the mega blocks are assembled, major wiring, control systems, finishing and fitting is done once the hull is floating.

This keeps time in the dry dock to a minimum (dry dock is the major capital asset and bottle neck as a general rule).

The mightly ships thing on the assembly of the container ship was miss leading as many of the mega blocks were being constructed at many sites so all you actualy viewed was the final assembly in dry dock....which when its lego is quick

[Marks DTM Calib]

Pretty good at ship building are the Koreans

My mate works for one of the big oil and gas companies in shipping and spends quite a lot of time in Korea at the shipyards. He must like dogmeat! 

Snap but I seem to be spending time in China and Brasil at the moment!

My mate also goes to China quite a lot.  He does quality control spot checks and by all accounts causes quite a kerfuffle when he shows up!  Apparently Chinese welding isn't great!!    An opening for Gixer perhaps? 

Every China shipyard (Cosco, CSSC, China Merhchants etc) I have been to, most of the welders are Indian (apparantly the Chinese struggle to weld)

[Marks DTM Calib]

Pretty good at ship building are the Koreans

My mate works for one of the big oil and gas companies in shipping and spends quite a lot of time in Korea at the shipyards. He must like dogmeat! 

Snap but I seem to be spending time in China and Brasil at the moment!

My mate also goes to China quite a lot.  He does quality control spot checks and by all accounts causes quite a kerfuffle when he shows up!  Apparently Chinese welding isn't great!!    An opening for Gixer perhaps? 

ABS or DNV?

[pscocoa]

I met with many of the container lines in Hamburg recently and several are nursing borrowing headaches having bought vessels at the top of the market and the low demand now means that those 2010 ships are heavily discounted.

I heard that the German banks are owed more by the shipping industry (euros 120 billion) than they are by Greece, Spain, Portugal...

[Lizzie_Zoom]

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?mmsi=219018501&centerx=1.314067&centery=51.94687&zoom=10&type_color=7

.....and that proves how marvelously new container movement techniques work. They unload and then re-load completely one of these giants in under 24 hours!  If I remember correctly they aim for each 'crane lift' to move around 400 containers in about one six hour shift.

Just think how when I was a child a ship could take a week to unload far lesser quantities, with certain dockers "taking their perks"!  In fact I remember the strikes of the late 1960s into the 1970s being caused by "new practices" - containers - being introduced! We all knew why!!

[05omegav6]

The beauty of making anything lego fashion is that you are limited only by your imagination and the number of bricks available... And when it comes to real world manufacturing, neither of those are particularly restrictive

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Im sure the Brits could do it at least as well,but they couldn't be paid in bowls of rice, and dog meat.

We haven't the skills to build anything like that anymore sadly 

We do actualy, dont beleave everything you see in the press.

In reality its a pretty simple and basic ship, nothing clever about it (possibly DP2, maybe 3)....now naval vessels,they are complex and we still build them.

Indeed, as the two Queen Elizabeth class carriers are currently proving.  Massive sections being built, then rolled together and welded to make one whole ship.  The same process being used to build various ships now, including Astute Class submarines.

We can and do still build very techniqually complex machines

[PhilRich]

And it's built by Daewoo That should build STEMO's Kudos up a bit!!!

[Lazydocker]

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?mmsi=219018501&centerx=1.314067&centery=51.94687&zoom=10&type_color=7

.....and that proves how marvelously new container movement techniques work. They unload and then re-load completely one of these giants in under 24 hours!  If I remember correctly they aim for each 'crane lift' to move around 400 containers in about one six hour shift.

Just think how when I was a child a ship could take a week to unload far lesser quantities, with certain dockers "taking their perks"!  In fact I remember the strikes of the late 1960s into the 1970s being caused by "new practices" - containers - being introduced! We all knew why!!

Don't believe all you read

In reality these massive ships are never completely emptied in any port, nor completely loaded. In fact, just for the record, most of these "Mega Carriers" only have around 8000 container movements in each port (if a big visit) and will be in port for around 48+ hours. They also have to sail on the tide as even in the biggest ports they are sat on the mud at low tide

Each crane can move around 5-600 containers in a 12 hour shift with no breakdowns or special lift requirements.. If those containers are all 40' containers or 20' containers that can be "Twin Picked" and there is enough plant machinery and space then they could, in theory, manage 400 TEU's (Twenty-foot Equivalent Units) in 6 hours but the reality is that it just doesn't happen.

I am, of course, only speaking of my experiences from working at Britain's Largest container port for several years

[Marks DTM Calib]

Yep, the ships follow a crcular route dropping and loading containers as they go at many ports.