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chrisgixer

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Re: Sunday TV.
« Reply #15 on: 14 October 2013, 00:57:25 »

I bet their all at it in some form or other. The true art being, not getting cought.
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« Reply #16 on: 14 October 2013, 01:15:02 »

Aye reading the summary of that season, alot of the penalties and some transgressions were either reversed or overlooked as a result of delayed/incomplete evidence and plausible misinterpretation of the rules :-\

Benetton seemed to get hit hardest with fines, but nothing else ever really came from any of the allegations :-\
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Re: Sunday TV.
« Reply #17 on: 14 October 2013, 12:35:23 »

There's talk of Red bull having some form of t/c at the moment but don't see how they could tbh as they all use the same ecu ???
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« Reply #18 on: 14 October 2013, 13:07:40 »

No reason why they couldn't, you could impliment a basic form of TC in a fuel pump if you apply a little thought (e.g. look for sudden engine rev rises and then apply a miss fire or similar).

They use the same ECU's which only really limits the singles to the ECU.......and possibly the base software
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« Reply #19 on: 14 October 2013, 14:10:19 »

I don't see why they couldn't fit their own ecu or box of tricks in between the stock ecu and what ever component they want to fiddle with.

Dyno jet have been doing so for years.
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« Reply #20 on: 14 October 2013, 14:30:20 »

There's talk of Red bull having some form of t/c at the moment but don't see how they could tbh as they all use the same ecu ???

First Ive heard of it. :-\
Easy enough to have a form of TC,but is it feasible to have it so that FIA techy bods cant find it,or prove it. ? :-\
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« Reply #21 on: 14 October 2013, 15:01:45 »

There's talk of Red bull having some form of t/c at the moment but don't see how they could tbh as they all use the same ecu ???

First Ive heard of it. :-\
Easy enough to have a form of TC,but is it feasible to have it so that FIA techy bods cant find it,or prove it. ? :-\

http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08108
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« Reply #22 on: 14 October 2013, 17:41:52 »

Didn't know that. :y
TC theory also very interesting.If that's the case,the FIA should have banned it a long time ago.Its an unfair advantage,and previous unfair advantages (Brabham fan car being one example) were banned almost immediately. Also,if its only fitted to Vettels car - which would explain a lot - its an absolute disgrace from Webers perspective.
Personally I don't belive all F1 teams are cheating when they can get away with it.I believe they all push their interpretations of the rules as far as they possibly can,which isn't he same thing. Adrian Newey is abviously better than the rest at this. The description of the Red Bull TC (if true) is a very good demonstration.He has found a loophole and exploited it,and its then up to the rulemakers to change the rules again to level the playing field.
Imo,man like Frank Williams and Ron Dennis would never be involved in outright cheating. They are racers and sportsmen to their last breath. Dennis was effectively forced out of his own team,and had to pay huge amounts of money in fines,because Alonso told him their was rule breaking taking place at McClaren. Alonso was trying to blackmail him into making Hamilton his number two. Dennis immediate reaction was to pick up the phone and call the FIA technical chief and repeat word for word what Alonso had told  him. If he wasn't an honest man he could have tried to cover it up. Imo,it wouldnt have worked though,as imo he was set up by Mosley,Fisa and Ferrari,aided and abetted by Alonso.                                                                                                                                        What happened at Benneton and Ferrari (same people mostly involved), and much later at Renault (by Briatore,former Benneton team manager) was outright cheating,and shouldn't have been allowed to continue. Briatore was kicked out of the sport,but all the earlier stuff involving Scumacher and his cronies has been swept under the carpet.
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Re: Sunday TV.
« Reply #23 on: 14 October 2013, 17:59:29 »

Indeed McClaren found a legal way to stall the wing down the straights, until it was banned the following season. Innovation is good for the motor industry and this is why they are going for small turbocharged engines next season, with greater KERS as it reflects the realities of where production cars are going with energy recovery systems to increase mpg.  :y

Manufacturers being able to use F1 and other sports as a conceptual testing ground for stuff that will eventually appear in production vehicles has always helped to attract and keep car manufacturers involved in motorsport.  :y
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Re: Sunday TV.
« Reply #24 on: 14 October 2013, 19:58:03 »

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Re: Sunday TV.
« Reply #25 on: 14 October 2013, 20:04:45 »

A differing theory ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24511950

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Saw that  earlier but can't for the life of me work out why his underbody plank isn't buggered by the end of the race,lot of heat being generated there ???
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« Reply #26 on: 14 October 2013, 20:18:10 »

The film (although not necessarily the commentary) for me backs up the theory in the earlier link.I think.  :-\
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