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Shower????
« on: 03 December 2013, 18:29:25 »

We have a gravity fed shower in the on-suite upstairs.

Is it worth fitting a pump to increase the pressure so that we can have a bigger shower head?

If so, can, can anyone recommend a suitable pump please?.
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Re: Shower????
« Reply #1 on: 03 December 2013, 18:38:06 »

If you have no intention of changing the boiler in the near future go for it - they really make a difference

I install Salamander one's - never had a come back - avail at Screwfix and other places - shop around for best price

http://www.screwfix.com/p/salamander-rsp75-positive-head-shower-pump-2bar/78641

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« Reply #2 on: 03 December 2013, 18:51:31 »

If you have no intention of changing the boiler in the near future go for it - they really make a difference

I install Salamander one's - never had a come back - avail at Screwfix and other places - shop around for best price

http://www.screwfix.com/p/salamander-rsp75-positive-head-shower-pump-2bar/78641

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Thanks for that, how difficult are they to fit?
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Re: Shower????
« Reply #4 on: 03 December 2013, 19:42:12 »

Very straight forward, I fitted a Wickes one years a go and it made a big difference. Make sure you fit a Surrey valve to your hot water tank.
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Re: Shower????
« Reply #5 on: 03 December 2013, 19:52:35 »

We have a gravity fed shower in the on-suite upstairs.

Is it worth fitting a pump to increase the pressure so that we can have a bigger shower head?

If so, can, can anyone recommend a suitable pump please?.
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=116238.45
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Re: Shower????
« Reply #6 on: 03 December 2013, 21:52:54 »

Very straight forward, I fitted a Wickes one years a go and it made a big difference. Make sure you fit a Surrey valve to your hot water tank.

That's a Surrey flange.  :o For the less discerning, an Essex flange might do the job, though. ;)

I've had a few TechFlow pumps, and been very happy with them. Go for a QT80 if you want the shower to dim the lights and deposit an entire tank of hot water onto your bonce in about 90 seconds. ;)

Used to get me awake in the mornings.
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Re: Shower????
« Reply #7 on: 04 December 2013, 07:31:30 »

Thanks for your replies :y
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Re: Shower????
« Reply #8 on: 05 December 2013, 07:08:20 »

Ignoring the cost of the pump, how much roughly should I pay for fitting?
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« Reply #9 on: 05 December 2013, 07:55:14 »

I had one like these fitted to a previous house

http://www.diy.com/nav/rooms/bathrooms/showers/shower_accessories/-specificproducttype-shower_pumps/BP100D-3-0-Bar-Brass-Twin-Impeller-Shower-Pump-10026453?skuId=10447158

Big shower head and fantastic shower  :y

However, two things to bear in mind.....it emptied the hot water tank in less than 10 mins and I had to have a 'coffin' cold water tank fitted.....huge tank.....so there was enough cold water to supply the shower and the hot water tank when the shower was running. The guy who fitted it was concerned of the weight of water in the loft.....so he 'beefed' up the ceiling rafters.....all added to the cost....so depends what you go for really.....but if only a 1bar or 1.5 bar pump and only adding the pump £100 or less for fitting sounds about right to me....as its quite an easy job  :)
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Re: Shower????
« Reply #10 on: 05 December 2013, 07:59:49 »

I had one like these fitted to a previous house

http://www.diy.com/nav/rooms/bathrooms/showers/shower_accessories/-specificproducttype-shower_pumps/BP100D-3-0-Bar-Brass-Twin-Impeller-Shower-Pump-10026453?skuId=10447158

Big shower head and fantastic shower  :y

However, two things to bear in mind.....it emptied the hot water tank in less than 10 mins and I had to have a 'coffin' cold water tank fitted.....huge tank.....so there was enough cold water to supply the shower and the hot water tank when the shower was running. The guy who fitted it was concerned of the weight of water in the loft.....so he 'beefed' up the ceiling rafters.....all added to the cost....so depends what you go for really.....but if only a 1bar or 1.5 bar pump and only adding the pump £100 or less for fitting sounds about right to me....as its quite an easy job  :)

Both hot and cold water tanks are big enough to take a pump, thanks Dave.
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« Reply #11 on: 05 December 2013, 08:07:22 »

Also bare in mind, they are a bit noisy. Well, more noisy than not having one.

Costs, can't say, as ours was installed along with a complete new bath room. But assuming there's access to site it, shouldn't take more than an hour to plumb it in. :-\

We do have a bigger water tank fitted. But I think if the existing tank can cope with a full bath, it should be fine for a shower for one person. Two if your quick. Ours struggles if she's had a bath, then I have a shower. >:(

It won't flow custard though. ;)
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« Reply #12 on: 05 December 2013, 08:43:04 »

Cost to install is VERY dependent on what the current installation is like.

We have an ESP100 Salamander which is very good, but when installing, I had to do quite a bit of re-plumbing so was a good days work.

I have also fitted one of these:

http://www.bathroomsandshowersdirect.co.uk/mira-digital/mira-vision/mira-vision-11797002-pumped-mixer-ceiling-fed-chrome--special-offer?&utm_source=google&utm_medium=merchant%2Bcenter&utm_campaign=products&gclid=CJKBkcXWmLsCFVMPtAodNhsA9g

Which if your hot and cold water pipes come from the ceiling makes installation very easy.
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Re: Shower????
« Reply #13 on: 05 December 2013, 09:34:23 »

Cost to install is VERY dependent on what the current installation is like.

We have an ESP100 Salamander which is very good, but when installing, I had to do quite a bit of re-plumbing so was a good days work.

I have also fitted one of these:

http://www.bathroomsandshowersdirect.co.uk/mira-digital/mira-vision/mira-vision-11797002-pumped-mixer-ceiling-fed-chrome--special-offer?&utm_source=google&utm_medium=merchant%2Bcenter&utm_campaign=products&gclid=CJKBkcXWmLsCFVMPtAodNhsA9g

Which if your hot and cold water pipes come from the ceiling makes installation very easy.

The pipes are behind the tiles, would mean stripping the tiles and plasterboard behind the shower.
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Re: Shower????
« Reply #14 on: 05 December 2013, 09:37:29 »

Yes, as said, you might find that your cold water tank isn't large enough, and needs to be upgraded. You'll need a separate cold feed installed from that to the pump, and to have the flange fitted to the hot tank to provide an dedicated outlet to the pump. The rest depends on where everything is going as to how awkward the plumbing is.

Something like Mark's suggestion might well make the installation easier and cheaper if it's just the one shower you need to "upgrade". :y You can just leave the existing pipes where they are. Everything required comes down one pole from the ceiling.
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