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[05omegav6]

Guessing no contest between the Shackleton and...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95 ...

How did/does the Nimrod hold up

[omegod]

Great stories mate and feel free to keep them coming, I was set for a service life till love got in the way! Such a shame the nimrods got binned,especially as they were just being bloody upgraded

[tunnie]

Just caught up with it on iPlayer, very good. Really enjoyed it

[Shackeng]

Guessing no contest between the Shackleton and...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95 ...

How did/does the Nimrod hold up

No comparison Shack V Bear (Tu -142 maritime version), they were turbo-prop and operated at similar heights to the Nimrod. I did see a few from the Nimrod, and we would give each other a wave.

Having seen the inside of Russian military a/c I prefer the Nimrod, which, based on the Comet 4, was a nice flight deck for the crew, most of whom converted from Shacks, albeit very old fashioned in modern terms. I spent 7 years on the Nimrod MR1, four years of which as a member of the air display crew, fortunately with excellent pilots, and always felt very comfortable with its performance. For a display, we would fly with a minimum crew, minimum fuel and no bomb bay stores, and therefore at these very light weights, the a/c performance was stunning.


If required we carried these for use against enemy subs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B57_nuclear_bomb

[Varche]

Guessing no contest between the Shackleton and...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95 ...

How did/does the Nimrod hold up

No comparison Shack V Bear (Tu -142 maritime version), they were turbo-prop and operated at similar heights to the Nimrod. I did see a few from the Nimrod, and we would give each other a wave.

Having seen the inside of Russian military a/c I prefer the Nimrod, which, based on the Comet 4, was a nice flight deck for the crew, most of whom converted from Shacks, albeit very old fashioned in modern terms. I spent 7 years on the Nimrod MR1, four years of which as a member of the air display crew, fortunately with excellent pilots, and always felt very comfortable with its performance. For a display, we would fly with a minimum crew, minimum fuel and no bomb bay stores, and therefore at these very light weights, the a/c performance was stunning.


If required we carried these for use against enemy subs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B57_nuclear_bomb

ye gods that was a lot of weaponry presumably decommissioned since?   3,100 weapons were built, the last of which was retired in June 1993.

Makes you realise that there is probably enough weaponry around in service now to be able to destroy the world several times over despite the "arms limitation" exercise that went on a few years back.

[MR MISTER]

Part two tonight.

[albitz]

A bit earlier than the programme in question but my old boss was a submariner in one of the little midget subs which tried to sink the german ships on Norway during WW2. A very interesting story.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/77/a3237077.shtml

[MR MISTER]

A bit earlier than the programme in question but my old boss was a submariner in one of the little midget subs which tried to sink the german ships on Norway during WW2. A very interesting story.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/77/a3237077.shtml

It was just.......a different world. I wonder how people would react now, when asked to do what these people did. OK, life for these folk was much more simple, much more black and white, and I don't think they were as sophisticated as many today.......but still, a lot has to be said for their.......well, patriotism. That's a big part of what's missing today, and I'm not sure I can blame today's generation for that. Opening borders has certainly taken a toll...........

[albitz]

Tbh I never liked the man when I worked for him. He was aloof, a bit snobbish and a truly useless businessman,but when I read that article I couldn't help but have a great deal of respect for him regardless of everything else I already knew. Real boysown hero stuff.

[MR MISTER]

That programme was amazing. It could all have been so very different, and I think it may have been if it wasn't for Gorby.

[Varche]

That programme was amazing. It could all have been so very different, and I think it may have been if it wasn't for Gorby.

My thoughts too.

On a lighter note, that Russian sub with even a swimming pool.  That takes the rusty biscuit!