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[chrisgixer]

Why have sky now moved BBC 2 HD (from 142) and put in in place of BBC 2 (102), and not bothered with BBC 1 HD which is still on 141?

I won't ask why both BBC HD channels where put in such obscure Chanel numbers btw, as I might get all "outraged" about it, and that would just be silly.

[SIR Philbutt]

Not had that upgrade yet still SD on my 102 - not on HD package but HD box

Are you on the HD package that might have something to do with it

[MR MISTER]

Still in the same place here.

[tunnie]

I did it to piss you off 

[Vamps]

I did it to piss you off 

 

[chrisgixer]

I did it to piss you off 

No suprise there


Did you re apply the internet monthly sub after we left for Virgin bb as well.

[Steve B]

Why have sky now moved BBC 2 HD (from 142) and put in in place of BBC 2 (102), and not bothered with BBC 1 HD which is still on 141?

I won't ask why both BBC HD channels where put in such obscure Chanel numbers btw, as I might get all "outraged" about it, and that would just be silly.

Only just found out that its not full HD....Its not transmitted

[chrisgixer]

Why have sky now moved BBC 2 HD (from 142) and put in in place of BBC 2 (102), and not bothered with BBC 1 HD which is still on 141?

I won't ask why both BBC HD channels where put in such obscure Chanel numbers btw, as I might get all "outraged" about it, and that would just be silly.

Only just found out that its not full HD....Its not transmitted

Sky is only in 1080i.

4k coming next year I'm told. Maybe Tunnie can confirm?

[Steve B]

720 is good enough for all unless you have hawk eyes 

[chrisgixer]

Saw a 4k tv in John Lewis today.

Absolutely stunning. Time lapse city scapes from day to night. Incredible detail. And absolutely zero "noise" anywhere. Even the river surface ripples where perfect.

Equally staggering price tag mind, but give it time.

[Steve B]

If you wanna see 1080p(its a disc in the proper Bluray player(not ps3) or a full download rip.(converted in the proper way,,,ish )
Im sure if im wrong i will be corrected.

There are loads of versions of 1080p And sky are not going to give you the full monty 1080p HD..And even if they did you would not notice it from the lower 1080p (but your piece of mind would be happy with them telling you they are giving you that)

look at the spec below; its a ripped bluray to mkv....

Matroska at 16.3 Mbps
Length            : 12.6 GiB for 1h 50mn 49s 142ms

Video #0          : AVC at 15.1 Mbps
Aspect            : 1920 x 1080 (1.778) at 29.970 fps

Audio #0          : AC-3 at 448 Kbps
Infos             : 6 channels, 48.0 KHz
Language          : english

[Kevin Wood]

Indeed. Resolution is pretty much immaterial given that all broadcast HD (especially via Sky) is beaten down to the minimum bitrate they can possibly get away with. Go to 4k and, until there is an explosion in the available bandwidth to the home, we will still have very mediocre HD broadcast content. Remember that what you see in the shops is not broadcast material, it's a very short clip of very high bitrate content being streamed locally, hence the lack of noise, incredible detail, etc.

Give it to uncle Rupert, who has to shoe-horn in as many shopping channels as he possibly can, and it's all over.

Also, look at a 4k TV from normal viewing difference instead of 6" in a shop and tell me you can tell a significant difference between that and 1080i.

[chrisgixer]

Like I said Kev, give it time. Obviously no 4k broadcast exists currently, so the source is disc media based.

The point of this is, hold off buying your new smart tv, disc player, media centre/hub games console. There is more to come from HD in the form of 4k, and its defo worth having. Defo

The difference between sets in the shop is Marked, before even looking at the labels to tell you if its oled led or 4k.

4k stands out head and shoulders. ..."wow, the picture on that one is awesome, head and shoulders above the rest" then when you look at the label "ah, its 4k..."


Specsavers was just over the road too

[Kevin Wood]

The point of this is, hold off buying your new smart tv, disc player, media centre/hub games console.

Well, the industry like to give the impression that each year's TV model has something that you can't live without to keep suckers buying TVs. They wouldn't survive if everyone only bought a TV when the old one wore out, after all. Hence the stream of fads such as HD ready, Full HD, 3D, "Smart" TVs, and so on.

OLED should be a significant step forward but you'd be a mug to buy one at current prices IMHO. 4K really depends on the content arriving in the home at a suitable quality level, and, even on blue ray, that's not happening yet. It'll also be a waste of time for people like myself whose choice of panel size is 37".

But yes, need to make the trips to Specsavers pretty regular to benefit, I reckon. 

[chrisgixer]

Why choose a specific screen size based purely on a number and ignore all else beyond?