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F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« on: 30 December 2013, 15:28:54 »

Although I love the look of the 2013 cars... I actually don't think the changes are as bad as peeps are making out...


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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #1 on: 30 December 2013, 15:37:03 »

Those nose sections look a bit daft too long and too low
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #2 on: 30 December 2013, 15:45:46 »

Not as bad as I thought though  :y
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #3 on: 30 December 2013, 17:36:33 »

Are the new noses like that to stop a car being launched if it hits the back of another car at high speed?
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #4 on: 30 December 2013, 19:24:13 »

You would think the new sleeker nose would slide under a car in front more easily?
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #5 on: 30 December 2013, 19:33:36 »

 I presumed the low nose was to restrict airflow to the downforce aero under the car...?

Low nose, and no blown defuser = less down force both ends...?
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #6 on: 30 December 2013, 19:58:06 »

Indeed, its to reduce aerodynamic efficiency, rather than safety grounds.

It would appear that the FIA have realised that F1, as it stood, was dull.
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #7 on: 30 December 2013, 19:59:08 »

Go on, I will say it. Apart from the colour I cannot see any difference whatsever. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #8 on: 30 December 2013, 20:33:30 »

Can someone explain why in F1 folk cant just be told to build the quickest car possible and then see who wins?
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #9 on: 30 December 2013, 20:33:55 »

.....i.e. why would they ban things and change things to make the cars slower?
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #10 on: 30 December 2013, 21:00:27 »

Safety and ££££££
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #11 on: 30 December 2013, 21:05:05 »

If they built the cars with the maximum down force, maximum power, the drivers would pass out. Ground effect was banned years ago for this reason.

Its one of the few justifications in life for management to exist.

Although IMO last season the real issue was the tyre management. Complete and utter farce. If f1 is the same in 2014 it won't matter what other rules they change, they'll have no fans left.
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #12 on: 30 December 2013, 21:25:50 »

Can someone explain why in F1 folk cant just be told to build the quickest car possible and then see who wins?
Because it wouldn't be possible to race (each other).

Look back at the ground effect cars F1 cars from the 1970s.  If you want racing, you have to make (genuine, not this DRS 'dangle berries') overtaking possible. The only way to allow (genuine) overtaking is to reduce aerodynamic effects.

If you want time trials, thats something else. But F1 is supposed to be a race.
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #13 on: 30 December 2013, 21:41:33 »

They would also be so fast that an accident would often involve a car landing in the middle of the crowd,so current tracks would pretty much have to be scrapped and replaced with completely different types of design,including spectators who would need binoculars to see anything.And of course someone would need to come up with a braking system capable of stopping a 300mph, 300kg missile many times in the space of 70 laps.
Its a formula. Formulae have various ingredients (regulations in the case of racing formulae) to give a desired result or effect.
The formula has gone badly wrong in certain respects with each passing season in recent times. 2014 is going to have quite a different formula from what weve seen for a long time.
Whether or not it will be successful remains to be seen,but afaik they will still have mickey mouse type systems - DRS,KERS etc. so I have my doubts tbh.
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Re: F1: 2013 and 2014 looks comparison...
« Reply #14 on: 30 December 2013, 21:44:15 »

They would also be so fast that an accident would often involve a car landing in the middle of the crowd,so current tracks would pretty much have to be scrapped and replaced with completely different types of design,including spectators who would need binoculars to see anything.And of course someone would need to come up with a braking system capable of stopping a 300mph, 300kg missile many times in the space of 70 laps.
Its a formula. Formulas have various ingredients (regulations in the case of racing formulae) to give a desired result or effect.
The formula has gone badly wrong in certain respects with each passing season in recent times. 2014 is going to have quite a different formula from what weve seen for a long time.
Whether or not it will be successful remains to be seen,but afaik they will still have mickey mouse type systems - DRS,KERS etc. so I have my doubts tbh.
So again I suspect I'll watch the first race of the season in hope that they can make it exciting racing, and then swear never to watch another race...
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